UALramperORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1850 times:
Hey all, I am being bumped out of ORD in mid-february, and I will more than likely be transfering to IAD. I was just curious what the senority is for the ramp and what type of operation there is. Also is it part time or full time work and what is the cut off for it. Thanks a bunch.
Bicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1684 times:
You might want to check with your managers at ORD or ask your union. Yours is a pretty detailed question and there aren't that many insider types at United here. However, here's what I know from my 20-something neighbor kid who is a part time ramper at IAD. Full timers at Dulles are expecting a hit, too. Some with less seniority will be offered part time or furlough. Rampers had to have their new bids in by December 25 and the less senior full timers and the part-timers are expecting the worst when the new work area assignments come out in a week or two. I don't know the number of years seniority which will be affected. Dulles just had a bunch of rampers come in from Baltimore and New York, due to cut backs there. My neighbor says he can't understand why the fulltimer cutbacks at Dulles are coming because as it is now, many fulltimers are working overtime, called in to work on their days off, or holding over after their shift ends. Maybe this is stop gap until transfers arrive from ORD and DEN?
As for the operation at IAD....the United gates, and the non public areas are the worst. The main terminal is beautiful, but the 20 plus year old "temporary" United gates are falling apart. The freezing weather we had last month caused numerous pipes to burst. My neighbor says the non public areas are filthy and dilapidated, especially the employee lockers, bathrooms and breakrooms.
Peak time at Dulles is between 15:00 and 19:00 when the international arrivals and departures occur. Delta Global Services is the ramp contractor for United Express and their employees are incompetent, which brings down the entire operation when bags are missed and delayed. My neighbor says United mainline ramp at Dulles is chronically understaffed in part timers due to the 4 hour late afternoon shift being incompatible with other jobs the potential part-timers may have and the lousy prospects for full time work. Morale and mood by oldtimers is really bad. Dulles had to implement an emergency sick leave policy for rampers right before Xmas to clamp down on the amount of rampers calling in sick.
My neighbor says that coming from ORD, you'll be shocked with the wretched condition of tractors and loaders (if they're operating at all) and the robbing of gates just to find equipment that works. Beltloaders, tugs, tractors, etc...no gate has everything it needs.
Have you compared the cost of housing around Dulles compared to Chicago??? You're in for sticker shock.
UALramperORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
Bicoastal. Thanks for all the info. As for the sticker shocker price, ORD is pretty damn expensive to live in and around also. As for the situation with equipment, we are the same way at ORD. I have almost 5 years with UA so please ask your neighbor who works for UA where that would put me when I bump in. Thanks alot and welcome to my R U List.
Bicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
My ramper neighbor has asked around. Fulltimers at IAD seem to have around 6 years seniority. He works with a parttimer who has 5 1/2 and is still waiting for full time. He wishes the chronic complainer senior fulltimers would just quit. They bitch and moan so much. He says the entire work force at UA would be more motivated without them being negative all of the time. Younger guys like him understand that the industry has changed, but the old guys and gals are in denial.
Hey, your tag line says something about negative about Ted. Seems to me like it's the right product for the markets it serves. Sure, it's not mainline, but people flying to those destinations don't care; Southwest style service is fine with them. I've flown Ted a few times and liked it. At least UA didn't contract out the Ted flights.
UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1292 times:
What you said is so true. The older more senior people just don't get it. They still see a CS or a Ramp position as a job that someone could retire having do it for 30 years. The younger folks, probably got into the job knowing that this was more or less temporary. Transient would be a better word.
I started at UA 5 and a half years ago I thought I would be in management after 2 years. Well two years went by and 9-11 happened, so I was ok with delaying my plan. But now after all this time and no opportunity to advance coming along, I took the layoff from UA.
Last night was my last night. When I got home my wife and I toasted with champange. A clean break. I get my severence and my travle benefits and I get to look for a new job full time.
The more senior poeple where so sorry, but aside from missing my so-workers I told them there was nothing to be sorry about. I'm sorry that they fell like they are locked into these positions. Positions which are rapidly transforming into dead end jobs.
Very soon the CS and Ramp will have all of the cache in the labor market of a fast food worker, if it doesn't already.
So RamperORD does this mean your going to have to change your handle?
UALramperORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1136 times:
UALPHLCS, I am 99 percent sure I am getting the boot from ORD. However I will be taking the transfer to IAD when it is offered. I wish I could change my handle, but ill stick with it to remind me of where I began with UA nearly 5 years ago. I am determined to stick with this company till they turn around or dare I say go belly up. I just wanted to say thanks again to bicoastal, and wish UALPHLCS the best of luck in the future and I hope that we turn around and you get your job with UA back(if you wana go back)
BTW, my signature isnt bashing TED, its just a little joke we have on the ramp. Ive flown TED to LAS and it was a good experience.
Once again good luck to you UALPHLCS, and everyone else in any airline going through tough times.
ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1079 times:
There are a number of manager jobs open at United...I know there were some supervisor jobs in PHX open and I think a few other places....you should check on those and express interest...would be better than being bumped out fo ORD!
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