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It's Official: C8 Is Ending DAY Service  
User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Yep.....as rumored here just over a week ago by Ouboy79.....Chicago Express will be terminating service to Dayton, Ohio as of January 30th, 2004. Updated schedules will be loaded into Sabre Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Gary Marsh finally had the balls to call our station manager today and inform us of the decision. ATA/C8 has one of the worst communication departments around....because we all knew what was going to happen well before the management was willing to recognize it.

Also, Gary Marsh will be flying down to DAY tomorrow on flight #3886 to meet with airport director Blair Conrad(another piece of work) and the employee group. So if you're at MDW or DAY keep on the lookout for Mr. Marsh.

I won't even comment on severance packages, more of a friggin joke than anything!!!

Well, good luck to all the C8 and ATA employees in the future!


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User currently offlineDAYGS From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3196 times:

I had heard that DAY was the second most profitable station for TZ (as a spoke city, I believe)

User currently offlineDayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

As a DAY resident I knew it was bound to happen with the focus now on IND for them. I sincerely wish the employees all the best, and thanks for your service to the commumity here in Dayton. I hope that ATA returns sometime in the future and they get a real gate to work with!

One Nation Under God
User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Another interesting note.....

We handle Skyway Airlines flights here at DAY.....well our station manager mentioned this to Gary when he called and he had know idea how to handle the situation. Wouldn't you think the president of a company would know the details of an agreement like that???

Also, he said he wanted to wait to tell our station of the closing until after the bankruptcy court date on the 14th(because we would have confirmation then), but he knew the schedules were going to be loaded into sabre this weekend. WTF kind of management is that??? Really amusing I tell you. I wish them the best of luck in the future....but this whole Indy op is a dead horse from the start.


EDIT: For sh*tty grammar

[Edited 2005-01-04 07:09:04]

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2096 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Chris....I honestly think it's a case of the puppets here. I think the idiots are in IND, not in Chicago. Before the marketing meeting on that Monday before Christmas, things were looking up and everything was situation normal and only 2 cities were closing. Now all of a sudden these things are happening? I really do feel that C8 was blindsided here and all they can do is what ATA tells them. IMO ATA is digging their own grave. I think that they don't know what they want and how they want to go about it. I think that's why it took so long for you guys to officially hear it, because ATA wasn't sure what it wanted to do. I still feel bad for ya guys.

DAYGS, I want to say that you are correct because of the ground contract with Skyway/Midwest Connect. The most profitable flying was definitely FNT.

On a side note, I plan on driving out to the airport this evening to watch the last TOL flight....sad to see what was built is now gone...Good luck to all those involved in ATA's idiotic decisions.


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

Hey Ryan.....

No doubt Chicago Express is taking orders from Ol' Georgie boy! I was planning on driving up to the airport to see what Gary has to say, but in all honesty it's not worth the time and effort. Like I said before, I'll miss the people and the fun working environment we have here, but it's time to move on to bigger and better things.

I believe the Indy op will be dead before it even starts. I don't have a clue what George is thinking........I think his ship is temporarily affloat. I wish all the ATAH employees luck in the future....even though it might be a short one at that.


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Just a little update.....

Expect an announcement tomorrow on the furlough of flight attendants and first officers. The Saab fleet will be reduced to 10(from 17 now). The number I hear is 70 F/O's, not sure how many F/A's though. Aircraft 304 has already been returned to the lessor.

Also, ATA has already repaid the $15 miilion that was loaned to them by the state of Indiana. From what I can get.....ATA and Chicago Express want to ride the coat tails of Southwest out of bankruptcy in order to position themselves to obtain money from the capital markets.....then the plan is to acquire regional jets.

Hopefully the cities of Evansville, Fort Wayne, and Gary, and the state of Indiana are saving up their money so they can throw some more money at ATA!


[Edited 2005-01-04 21:27:51]

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2096 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

You're right Chris...the number of pilots I heard was 88 total pilots needed to fly. That was for 8 aircraft, so I would assume right around 100 pilots then. For the FOs....Skywest is hiring like crazy...I have noticed they have open houses very soon out west...It's sad when the good group of guys and gals are broken to pieces instead of the others that hate each other ya know? Regional jets - another character to this puppet show...lol Best of luck! =)


Chris - send me an email flyinryan99@yahoo.com and I'll email ya back the pictures from the last TOL flight tonight =)

[Edited 2005-01-04 21:31:46]

User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Hey Ryan.....

The word is 9 lines of flying with maybe one spare A/C....albeit for only a few hours day. 6 more Saabs should be returning to lessors very soon(probably after the court date on the 14th).

I'll shoot an email at ya sometime later tonight....


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