Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 40 Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4916 times:
Oh come on. Even I know that engine changes are a fact of life. The jets would end up flying around with all sorts of different designs under each wing and look even more disorganised that the different tails shambles.
What are you going to do. while they fly overhead. Stick your head under the wing to admire them, or use binoculars?
Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4903 times:
Actually Antares, you only change the engine, and not the cowling so the design wouldn't get muddled up. However, as a BA employee, I actually think the tails were crap and should be got rid of at the earliest opportunity. We are an airline, not an Art Museum.
Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 40 Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4874 times:
I suppose that you must very occasionally change cowlings too, when they get run into by hail, gravel or ramp vehicles (no doubt rarely) but presumably much less so than changing the actual engine.
I recall being told that the tails of the world notion was also discovered to be bad for the sense of 'brand' that was BA. There are few stronger brand images than the Union Jack, so in that sense BA is back on track with an identity that says BRITISH! And good on them.
Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4854 times:
Although some of the designs were attractive I agree that they were completely inappropriate to go on the tails of British Airways aircraft. Britain's flag carrier should have some version of the union flag on the tail.
I do like the more subtle use of some of the artwork which can still be seen in various parts of the airline today; such as on name badges, ticket wallets, baggage tags, seat covers etc. Makes a nice change from plain dark blue!
It seems that all traces of the world images will disappear from BA eventually and I doubt they will be brought back in any form. Personally I'd like to see them stay in the situations mentioned above and also added to those dull white winglets on the 747-436 fleet.
EmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4797 times:
Please.....Those world tales were awful! o.k so BA was supposedly the worlds favorite airline but to get rid of our British Identity....NO WAY... I agree with some posts that the old scheme was a little dull and out dated (made the 747 look dirty and old) I much prefer the new design.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2218 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4767 times:
Iregardless if whether you agree with a world look for a world airline one reality much decide any cowling paint.
If an engine developes a fuel/oil/hydro leak inside that cowling many times the first way to spot it is a blemish on a solid painted surface. Complicated designs could possibly hide a needed clue to a mechanical problem.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
Argonaut From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2004, 420 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4695 times:
BA has never had a decent livery, although the current stylised union flag on the fin is reasonably okay---it looked best on Concorde, for which it was originally designed.
The most frightful part of the today's livery is that awful "ribbon" logo. It looks like a piece of toilet paper caught around a car radio aerial. If it's symbolic of anything, it beats me what that might be. So much for a "British image"...
Miamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4664 times:
Those world tails at least looked interesting. I'm starting to get tired of this new version of the Union Jack on the tail, looks so much less exciting. Getting tired of seen this livery already (and I don't even see it as much as you guys in the UK)
They diminished the blue area as compared to the Landor colors, and that makes their current livery even more boring now that the world tails are gone.
Ready4pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4636 times:
The most frightful part of the today's livery is that awful "ribbon" logo. It looks like a piece of toilet paper caught around a car radio aerial. If it's symbolic of anything, it beats me what that might be.
It's called the "Speed Tick", isn't it? At least that's what my cabin-crew friend says it's called. I like it anyway - beats having just a design on the tail, and the name printed, like most airlines. Personally, I really liked the world tails, but I love the Union Flag tail. The old grey livery was awful.
Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 40 Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4624 times:
Actually going back in some way to the 'retro' Speedbird symbol of BOAC times might work. And I'm not referring to the service standards of the old BOAC, be assured from vivid personal recollection, that won't work!
Shamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4551 times:
It's called the "Speed Tick", isn't it? At least that's what my cabin-crew friend says it's called.
I believe the official name is Speedmarque. I think it looks stylish and has now become part of a strong brand, though what it represents is not entirely clear to most people. It is an adaptation of the red dash Speedwing logo from the Landor livery, which itself is an adaptation of of the BOAC Speedbird logo.
Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3629 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4488 times:
I wouldn't have minded if they had kept the world tails to British themes based on designs representing England,Scotland, Wales and Ulster but to have Poland and Saudi Arabia and other themes on British aircraft was pushing the patience of the British public and no doubt confused a lot of travellers.
The new livery should have been an adaptation of the landor livery not the freak show we were given.
Just my crazy thoughts.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 21 Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4437 times:
Just my crazy thoughts
Actually they are good thoughts, i was thinking the same. Instead of the world tails, BA could have painted their aircrafts tails in the colours of all the four home nations flags. English St Georges Cross, Scottish saltire, Welsh dragon and the Northern Ireland emblem, that would have pleased the entire UK public. That would have been a far more 'British' thing to do than painting the tails with ugly graffiti.
BWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4296 times:
Ok I understand that the World tails were kind of bad for branding but they could have kept Chelsea Rose it is english and it look damn good. I find that I like the landor livery over this one although this one isnt bad.
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4198 times:
I read your post and thought "yeah right, that would look just plain ugly"... Then I had some spare time and did the following work in Photoshop/CorelDraw (all MY artwork please no one copy!!!). And I thought... Mmm, maybe it isn't such a bad idea after all. But I doubt very much BA would ever bring these images back in any shape or forms...
Zander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4186 times:
BA could have moved the world tail motives to the rear fuselage instead,
there is just white anyways.
It doesn't had to be like a square paintings, more like graffiti or something like that (like the Andalucia stickers of Air Europa).
That would be a better solution in my opinion.