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NWA Not Happy With DAL New Fare Structure  
User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10049 times:

Press Release Source: Northwest Airlines


Northwest Responds to Media Inquiries Concerning Reported Delta Fare Initiative
Tuesday January 4, 4:56 pm ET


EAGAN, Minn., Jan. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- In response to numerous requests from the news media for comments on the reported Delta Air Lines fare initiative, Northwest released the following statement today:
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"Although any analysis of the effects of the reported Delta fare initiative depends upon the details of Delta's proposal, if it occurs, Northwest believes that 'fare simplifications' of the sort being described are revenue negative. Northwest expects that such an initiative, if it becomes general, would immediately adversely and significantly affect industry revenues."

Northwest Airlines (Nasdaq: NWAC - News) is the world's fourth largest airline with hubs at Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Tokyo, and Amsterdam, and approximately 1,500 daily departures. Northwest and its travel partners serve more than 900 cities in more than 160 countries on six continents.




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Source: Northwest Airlines




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User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9943 times:

If NW didn't have so much bad press in MSP about the high fares they charge out of their Minnesota super-fortress, they wouldn't need to issue a press release.

I'd really rather see NW go bye-bye instead of US, but nwa (were they hoping people wouldn't recognize them as Northwest with that logo?) flies to many destinations with little competiton, so they get to stay... drat!


User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9856 times:

Tell us how you really feel.

User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9821 times:
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I'm not surprised at all. See example of DL undercutting SkyTeam partner AF in the following thread:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1890294/



It's been swell, but the swelling has gone down.
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9785 times:

Eta unknown:

NW "gets to stay" because unlike other aforementioned airlines that are on the brink of liquidation, their management actually knows how to run an airline... and seeing that they've captured 80% of the MSP market, seems Minnesotans don't hate NW as much as you suggest.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9749 times:

I could see it not helping NW while helping DL. NW's business is much more sheltered from LCC's than Delta's. It is also much more O&D oriented rather than connecting. ATL/CVG/SLC are already under this new type of pricing. DTW/MEM/MSP remain hubs with for the most part old style pricing.

User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9734 times:
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Filejw,
While I don't at all agree with ETA's sentiments, his statement serves as a perfect example of what's wrong with legacy carriers. There was a time when
NW, along with most other Legacy carriers would eliminate competition with predatory pricing policies, only to raise prices once competition was eliminated. They were successful in doing so, because the public either didn't trust the newcomer, or was tied to the legacy carrier's loyalty program.

But, the mega-hub pricing strategies and customer service shortfalls have built up such incredible levels of resentment amongst the flying public, people are sticking with the LCC's even when legacies match pricing. Now, not only is a legacy carrier losing money by matching an LCC's pricing, but they are also failing to succeed in winning back lost passengers due to lingering resentment.

I don't think DL dropping fares all by itself is going to help the carrier. There has to be a fundamental change in the way that DL, NW, US, UA, AA treat passengers. Being in SFO, I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say I would love to fly ANYONE other than UA if it weren't for my miles. In UA's defense, I've seen them really raise their game and really work hard in improving the customer experience. I haven't seen this from either US or DL. My limited experiences with NW have been mediocre at best, so I can understand the sentiments, although I don't wish any airline employees to lose their jobs.



It's been swell, but the swelling has gone down.
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9662 times:

"Your compassion for the livelihood of 47000 people is just beautiful..Go F##k yourself,,,,"

47,000 people?!? Is that supposed to be some kind of a joke? Try 5,000,000. NEWay, I would say the same thing that you said to Eta, but I have a little bit more class than that, but dido to you my friend if you're trying to bash Minnesota.

Jeremy


User currently offlineFilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9574 times:

PA110,
It' s not DL prices that bother me its Eta's attitude.In my over 40 hockey league we try to remember everybody has to go work the next day and we have a response to people that forget it.


User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7535 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9559 times:

It really depends how you read into this statement. Nowhere does NW specifically say that they are not happy with Delta's new fare structure.

It simply states the truth......this new structure will reduce revenue in the industry. Are the airlines ready to handle this, even Delta? That is questionable. NW is simply stating the truth. Revenue is continually falling in this industry, which is somewhat worrisome, since by and large, even at the LCC's costs are still not where they should be.

NW's statement could be taken many ways......


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9545 times:

My turn....isn't DL running a high load factor now? They drop rules and regs and fares to raise that factor? Hmmmmmmmmm...the old great white hair sees it this way. This is a GREAT way to raise $$$$$$. Perhaps Dl needs a few bucks because the drain is getting a little bigger each month...more out then in?. Then again perhaps airTran is eatting DL's lunch at ATL and DL needs a drastic move.
Only my two cents worth.....I say NW or any other carrier would not like to change the rules. NW was merely the first to sound off.
safe



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User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9516 times:

DL is not doing this to raise load factors. Load factors are already high. DL expects the yield to rise. That is, on average DL will see a rise in fares paid. ie fairly priced walk up fares replacing deeply discounted leisure fares. And since DL already mirrors Airtran pricing in every single market Airtran has nothing to do with it.

User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9508 times:

And yet, Delta still hasn't announced anything...

B


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

I agree DL is "not doing this to raise load factors" They aren't anemic now. They need more cash, not more bodies. Bodies they got! Some of those walk up fares are touching the stratosphere now with DL and almost everyone else. DL wants to RAISE em somemore?
Try this...take all your cheap-o fares and tack on $20 bucks RT. The legacy's should follow. Sooner or later so will the cheap-os because they know they can get it.
Try that and quit the nickel-dime crap...the change fee..stand bye charge(NW does not have a stand-by charge..thats why I fly them), over weight bag games..buy a sandwich.. a five dollar beer...hell, only the Palace where the Pistons play charge more...
Big Six. GO BACK TO BASICS..do what brought you to the dance...
And don't insult everyone here's intelligence with"Airtran has nothing to with it"
Airtran is big pain in DL's ass and DL knows it. Those people at ATL getting on and off Airtran planes were DL's pax. Who are you kidding?
safe





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User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9393 times:

Delta has been matching Airtran market to market for 4 years now. You're the one the brought Airtran as a possible reason. No. This new pricing will not effect their competition in the least.

User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9386 times:
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Legacy carriers already understand that price is everything no matter where they are.

Now to survive in this climate they also all know their own prices have to be lower and every one of them is trying as fast as they can to match them while still trying to make the profit they could not even make before. To do this they have to dig out from the mountains of obligations and debt that past practices such as Regulation, unions, pensions and managed competition made a normal operational procedure. Now fuel prices are an unimaginable and underappreciated punch. This only added to an unavoidable domino in our financial climate. As cash runs out at each carrier more drastic measures are available and acceptable through bankruptcy laws and thoughts of liquidation possibilities. Each carrier that reaches this point institutes such new rules and prices that make it that much more imperative the others follow. All businesses are finding this out.

When your competition starts at a profit and stays there is a sea change from the past. No equal debt load is the hammer that is flattening the playing field. And it will.

The period we are is uncomfortable at best. Traditional values are being rewritten. Service levels at the Legacies are suffering from morale as wages and manning are cut to provide savings for the time needed but in themselves cause an escalation of feelings against them that make the changes thought needed that much time important and time sensitive.

How to keep that expedited landing safe and recoverable is not in any manual as yet.

Please understand the problems and do not condemn a system in freefall. Everyone wants to survive. Everyone wants to offer a product that makes both the provider and the customer happy. It will happen but the added acrimony will not help one bit. Not any more than what the rampers at PHL are alleged to have done.



Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9298 times:

"And yet, Delta still hasn't announced anything..."

An official announcement is expected tomorrow.

Jeremy


User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9208 times:

What lousy fares? Why so negative about NWA? I fly every week -- let's see, last year, I flew on Continental, American, Delta, Air Canada, Northwest, US Airways, KLM, and a few others --

NWA is the most cooperative airline for a passenger who misses a flight, looses luggage, has any kind of problem. Their fares are competitive, terminals are from OK to great (Airlink terminals to DTW), and the personnel is always cooperative and friendly. I do have a recent problem with Pinnacle; however, I am hoping that will be resolved, and again, other than one Pinnacle flight attendant, who should be quietly deposited under the stairs, the Pinnacle personnel are also helpful


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9152 times:

We have to try something to stimulate demand.

Northwest very seldom goes along with any fare initiative.

This is just their conservative rhetoric.




Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3803 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9075 times:

If NW doesn't like DL's propsed fare rationaliztion, NW should do DL a favor and kick them out the the bed in which they have been sleeping together. It would greatly benefit DL, just as CO's retaliatory reaction to HP's "fair fares" improved HP's lot considerably while it's been CO spinning their wheels ever since.

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25012 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9033 times:
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Tango-Bravo:

You hit the nail smack on the head.

Jetdeltamsy:

But - the demand is already there. November traffic rose 9% yoy, with a load factor of 74% - which ain't too shabby for November.

The problem is that costs exceed revenue. And I can't see how the answer to that is to reduce revenue.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9031 times:

Some of those walk up fares are touching the stratosphere now with DL and almost everyone else. DL wants to RAISE em somemore?

I don't know if you understand the Simplifares approach Delta would be taking(if and when they announce something). The simplifares out of CVG cap fares to certain cities, no more paid than $499($599 for First Class), compared to a current walk-up to someplace like SLC for $1000. Since that started, they have seen an increase of people flying out of CVG(where there is no LCC competition), rather than defecting to DAY and LEX. It keeps your local customers flying out of the local airport. Thats the approach they would be taking, telling the customers, "You can fly on us and know that you will not pay more than this." It assures the customers that they know what they will get.


Airtran is big pain in DL's ass and DL knows it. Those people at ATL getting on and off Airtran planes were DL's pax. Who are you kidding?

I think I would have to disagree with ya there. Although Airtran is a big competitor to DL and does overlap many routes, it isn't the biggest threat to Delta right now. I'm not saying that Delta wouldn't want Airtran gone, but Delta has more to fear from more powerful airlines like Southwest in other cities(SLC, MCO, TPA, etc). And many of those people were Delta pax, but only for the past 12 years. Before that, they may have been Eastern's. Besides, if Delta figured that they couldn't live with FL, they could have done something to try and run them out back during the booming late 90's when record revenues were being made. Delta and Eastern could live with each other in ATL before EA died, and I think Delta and Airtran can as well.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9607 posts, RR: 69
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8776 times:
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Is this the same Northwest that attacked HP into Phoenix when they dropped their fares to MSP  Insane

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8442 times:

Thanks for the comeback OttoPylit. I understand a little better with YOUR explanation and as you have read in past posts, I crave knowledge of this industry.
I would think DL is drawing the line on airTran in a few markets. For example, airTran/Valuejet has had FNT(Flint)-ATL since the mid 90's. Just about 6 months ago, Comair gets into the act(that route). I know, I was the first pax off at FNT on their first trip ATL-FNT. They handed me a nice Comair umbrella as I disemarked. LOL
I'm sure these two are banging heads on other routes into and out of ATL.
AirTran and NW are also competing with FNT to MCO and FLL.
This new DL approach will be watched by other carriers very carefully.
As you well know,in the industry, its monkey see, monkey do. Another carrier should follow the DL lead. Lets see who and when.
ALSO I can add that since Indy Air showed up in LAN, DL/COMAIR lowed a lot of fares. Indy is now gone at LAN so lets see what DL does now.
I understand fully about airports, airlines and fares that keep people from driving to another city to catch a flight. FNT, LAN and DTW are sort on in a little war to keep the boardings local...quit driving to the next city.
Happy New Year to you and yours from Central Michgan..
safe



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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5181 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8237 times:

What's interesting is that AA tried to simplify fares about 10 years ago, with First, unrestricted Coach, 7-day advance, and 21-day advance. Several of the legacy carriers started to match the program, and then NW started a 50% discount fare during the summer.

All the airlines matched NW's fares and dropped the simplified structure. No one made money that summer, and a lot of people who had never flown before were getting on airplanes. There was a tote board in UA's F/A office at ORD with a countdown of the days, "until the Clampetts go home." That was a reference to the sit-com, "The Beverly Hillbillies."

A friend of mine who flies for AA told me that the joke was that people at AA were making sure that Bob Crandall was never at a function with Al Checchi, the CEO of NW, because Bob would have straggled Al.


25 OttoPylit : Yes, Delta has put RJ's on many routes that Airtran flies and lowers the fares to the same just to let Airtran know that they are not alone. I think i
26 RyanAFAMSP : I applaud NW for their absolutely sober, honest publicity. They hit it right on the head. All DL's initiative does is gaurantee reductions in unit rev
27 KDTWFlyer : What sort of communication if any goes on between codeshare partners when something like this occurs? Wouldn't some degree of negotiation be in place
28 FlyABR : What sort of communication if any goes on between codeshare partners when something like this occurs? Wouldn't some degree of negotiation be in place
29 Post contains images Ilsapproach : Typical NWA response My tail is getting red from bending over to NWA here at MSP............ Mike at MSP
30 Goingboeing : They hit it right on the head. All DL's initiative does is gaurantee reductions in unit revenue, which is the last thing the legacies need. At the end
31 IAHtown : When hasn't NW resisted a fare schedule change initiated by another carrier?
32 Ord : I received the email below today. According to the Wall Street Journal the fares were scheduled to be rolled out later this month, but the timetable w
33 Azjubilee : I too applaud NWA for being honest and candid with this announcement. I think fare simplification is in order, definitely! Perhaps slashing fares acro
34 FlyPNS1 : I too applaud NWA for being honest and candid with this announcement. I think fare simplification is in order, definitely! Perhaps slashing fares acro
35 EA CO AS : To the people that complain about NWA being the spoiler. Do a little research and you'll find that NWA isn't always the spoiler. Check your facts. I t
36 QuestAir : FlyPNS1, I agree. NW has a monopoly at MSP. But the title suggests that it is only NW that is unhappy with the new DL fare structure; aren't most?
37 Goingboeing : NWA is right... this will not be a revenue positive event an that is exactly what they don't need. Let me ask you this....if a 21 day advance fare let
38 Post contains links Vivavegas : Seems like Airtran is rather amused by the notion: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050105/nyw129_1.html "SimpliFares is about as simple as the U.S. Tax Co
39 Padcrasher : Delta and Northwest operate in totally different markets. DL 3 hubs all with LCC competiton. NW 3 hubs all with very little LCC pressure. DL has value
40 Luv2fly : Padcrasher I have to disagree with you, CVG has no LCC's to give DL any competition. DTW has WN and NK not to mention numerous charters as well.
41 Padcrasher : Yes I was wrong about CVG. But Delta has already converted CVG to this type pricing and incurred revenue gains. DTW/MSP/MEM may have a little LCC comp
42 Post contains links BigOrange : Here is the response from the Business Travel Coalition. I have to say I agree with them! Northwest have created a fortress in MSP by taking control o
43 Luv2fly : Padcrasher I agree about MSP and MEM! Though MEM does not have the O&D that MSP has. MEM you do have some drivable alternatives that you could do in a
44 Flairport : . There has to be a fundamental change in the way that DL, NW, US, UA, AA treat passengers. I notice you left out CO, was this intentional? One thing
45 Padcrasher : flairport judging from your past childish posts I would suggest turning the TV off and reading a book. Pick something meaningful, something that can t
46 NonRevKing : Reading between the lines of that AirTran response article, I understood the following: "Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah B
47 TWFirst : >>Northwest have created a fortress in MSP by taking control of the whole of the new terminal for themselves and their partners.
48 Rumorboy : Associated Press Estimated Airline Revenue Shortfalls Wednesday January 5, 12:25 pm ET By The Associated Press Estimated Revenue Shortfalls for Major
49 Mikey711MN : Not that airlines are in business to lose money, but if your competitor has one foot in the ground and they are losing money faster and/or closer to c
50 NWAFA : : Flairport, MSP-ANC is 5 hours fligh time, not 7. Only the 15-25 year group is going on and on and on and and on and on and on and on about the IFE i
51 Post contains images Mtnmanmakalu : NWAFA- You forgot the Daily except Sunday Icelandair flight..... mtnman...
52 NWAFA : Mtnm, Oh yea, please forgive me for not including ONE MORE airline that serves the MSP area!
53 Moman : This is nothing more than competition. Ford doesn't like it when Chevy lowers their prices either. And yes, Ford has issued press releases about the d
54 Post contains images Mikey711MN : NWAFA, don't forget about one of your long-time COdeshare partners... (just ribbin' ya...point well taken!) -Mike
55 NWAFA : Hey Mikey, Thanks for reminding me of ONE more! Im still waking up, need another cup of coffee. Yikes that now makes 15 airlines besides NWA at MSP.
56 Uadc8contrail : wouldnt it be nice to have WN as the 16th carrier to grace the overpriced skies of msp.......one day it will happen
57 NWAFA : They will be there with the code share with ATA. And if you would do your home work and read the reports (independent too) MSP is not "over priced" co
58 Uadc8contrail : NWAFA, can you post a link to these independant reports????
59 Bucky707 : NWA has a lot of nerve. 7, maybe 8 times since 9/11 other airlines have tried to raise fares, and each time it was NWA that refused to go along.
60 NWAFA : Go search for your self, they have been posted over and over and over and over and over and over.
61 Planemaker : CNBC just announced that NWA stock is down 10% in trading (the whole airline index is down) due to Delta's announcement.
62 Isitsafenow : Padcrasher said that NW and DL operate in totally different markets. In Indiana, Ohio and Michigan, going SOUTH, the big two are NW and DL. They haul
63 Uadc8contrail : NWAFA, sorry...i assumed that if you posted something about reports that you would have remembered the web sites.....my bad...
64 Post contains images FlyABR : the folks who run NWA sure are a funny lot!! they resist fare simplification and most recent attempts at fare hikes by other airlines...but then they
65 Cloudy : Didn't America West get back on their feet by doing something like this? The reason American's attempt to simplify the system a long time ago failed w
66 Post contains images TWFirst : >>NWA has a lot of nerve. 7, maybe 8 times since 9/11 other airlines have tried to raise fares, and each time it was NWA that refused to go along.
67 Mariner : TWFirst: Well said. cheers mariner
68 Planemaker : CNBC repoprts that NWA is down just over 11% for the day versus 6% for DL... interesting. Airline index down 12% for the day. Comment was also made th
69 M404 : Point One - The NWA response was obviously based, and states so, on the rumors coming out from the media and not fact from DL. Follow the lines of new
70 Mikey711MN : Comment was also made that US Airways will be airline most affected by DL's fare move since 60% of US Airways' fare revenue overlaps with DL. Then I d
71 Mariner : Mikey711MN: So what you mean is that in order for this to be revenue enhancing for Deltas, US Airways has to die? I'm not arguing, just clarifying. ch
72 Mikey711MN : Mariner, Yes, along those lines. That is, I believe DL has the most to gain from US's removal of itself from the aviation marketplace (based on CNBC c
73 FlyABR : i think one or even two majors need to kick the bucket before the industry will finally recover...
74 Mikey711MN : Mariner, To continue my point just a tad, I was mostly initially responding to this set of data that was posted above: Estimated revenue shortfalls fo
75 Mariner : Mikey711MN: I guess I agree - at least, with the US Airways part. Certainly, it would help Delta heaps, but I would have thought that Southwest - espe
76 Midway2airtran : Many different standpoints to this.. NWA crying foul, doesn't like or agree with it, but oh well. Issueing a press release like that seems to be a bad
77 Supa7E7 : Merrill Lynch thinks it is qualified to estimate revenue impacts within hours. Hahahaha. They are not qualified to even begin such an estimate.
78 M404 : Lets see now. Last year NW told employees they wanted 950m in concessions. Since negotiations began fuel has gone up some 20+ percent and now it's est
79 Iflewrepublic : NWAFA, You and I both know how people bitch about Northwest...it's plainly obvious anytime we are in the MSP terminal. The truth of the matter is - No
80 F9Fan : Does anyone remember NW's actions when F9 announced MSP-LAX last year? Within an hour of the flight times being announced, NW put planes on that exact
81 Isitsafenow : F9FAN.. As far as business is concerned, Northwest Airlines is ruthless in protecting "what's theirs" and battling the competition. I like that. You d
82 Goingboeing : People bash this company. I don't know why. Hell, Southwest does the same. They have had USAIRways in their sites for three years now. Look at the cit
83 Isitsafenow : They all play that game... When Braniff one shut down in May of 83, Mr Crandell very quietly raised fares on routes that AA and BN parallel, nine per
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