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Stretch Planes In The US  
User currently offlineUsairways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753 etc..Why are they so rare in the US. No US carriers have 773's. and why are their sales so low these aircraft in the US?

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User currently offlineLUV4JFK From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Because in the US, airlines are more concerned with multiple frequencies with smaller planes than fewer frequencies with larger planes, especially to business destinations. That's why you'll will never see just one 380 flight per day flying New York to Boston or Washington, DC.

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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753

For the 753 and 764, you already gave the answer.

For the 773, have a look at a world map and compare the US with Asia and Europe. Or check the inhabitants per square mile data and compare them with Singapore  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

BTW, that also tells you why there are only few 747s in the US.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764


User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764


 Confused hm, new to me.

But what about that:


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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Yes, but the U.S. Air Force will be flying the 767-400 soon. Albeit a highly modified version.  Big grin Probably will cost as much as ten commercial 767-400s, too.


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17002 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3189 times:

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764


Confused hm, new to me.


He meant US carriers, not "US Airways".



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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Don't forget the 737-900 of CO and I think Alaska. That is about as stretched of a 737 as you can get, looks like a 757 with the landing gear cut off Big grin


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User currently offlineUsairways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

ConcordeBoy:

yea but only 2 US airlines have it. Why are there no other carriers that have it and why only 2 airlines in the whole world. the 764 is a great plane to fly on, and it would probably do well in other international airlines fleets. it could be a good replacement for aging 762's and DC-10's.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Why dont any US airlines have any stretch boeings, like 753, 773, 764 etc..
besides the ones that do. DL-764, CO-764, 753

For the 753 and 764, you already gave the answer.


For the 753, in addition to CO,


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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

BTW, that also tells you why there are only few 747s in the US.

I know, only UA And NW ( and a few small airlines such as Focus, Tower)

But is there any chance, that UA will ever replace the 747 with some 773s?

I know NW would get the A346 over the 773.



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User currently offlineACAfan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3093 times:



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

um A350,
since when are Continental and Delta not USA airlines?  Nuts



yea but only 2 US airlines have it. Why are there no other carriers that have it and why only 2 airlines in the whole world.

1 reason is that all of the other companies who ordered the 764 cancelled/shifted their orders after the 764ERX program was killed.

Other reasons are the 764ER's range-limiting wing (specilized to fit into existing 767-capable gates) as well as its inability to carry LD3s in tandem, as the A330 can.




the 764 is a great plane to fly on, and it would probably do well in other international airlines fleets

...apparently, those airlines think otherwise.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

To add to Freddy's point in Post 12, Kenya was going to order the 767-400. Their shift was to the 777.


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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

um, when last I checked.... USA airlines were the only ones flying the 764

Confused hm, new to me.


He meant US carriers, not "US Airways".


Ooops, I have misunderstood that. Sorry, sorry

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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7058 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Well actually I think the US have the largest numbers of stretched airlliners in the world. It is the only part of the world where you will find so many 737-900s, 757-300 and 767-400s. The only stretched planes missing are the A340-600 (apparently of the reason that no US-carrier ever ordered the 4-holer anyway) and the 777-300.

737-900s are only flown by Korean and KLM outside of America, the 757-300 is only flown by Thomas Cook/Condor and Icelandair



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

I know NW would get the A346 over the 773.

uh, no you don't.



and the 777-300

...keep in mind that AF is the only non-Asian airline to op any form of 773 thusfar.



outside of America, the 757-300 is only flown by Thomas Cook/Condor and Icelandair

I wonder how Arkia would feel about that statement?  Big grin

[Edited 2005-01-05 23:11:57]

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