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Busiest US Domestic Route Without Nonstop Service?  
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5427 times:

With Song's announcement that they are dropping the 3x daily 757's from BOS-PBI, combined with American pulling their daily MD-80 off the route for the summer season, that will make 606 daily passengers who are now forced to connect through another airport on the route. The question here is, is there another domestic US route with more daily passengers, but no nonstop service?


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

Not quite 606, but RDU-LAX has 444 daily passengers.. no nonstop.. if you include the adjoining airports of LGB, ONT, BUR.. that makes the total of 550 daily passengers.


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

PVD-LAX is up there. A little more than 400 pax/day if I recall.

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5342 times:

...if you include the adjoining airports of LGB, ONT, BUR.. that makes the total of 550 daily passengers

ONT is not exactly adjoining to LAX; it's some 50 miles of bumper-to-bumper I-10 traffic to the east of LAX. Most RDU-ONT pax, I should think, would likely prefer a connecting or 1-stop same plane flight to ONT rather than deal with LAX and I-10 traffic.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5321 times:

http://www.lawa.org/lax/laxframe.html

I was using the LA World Airport guide.. which includes ONT with LAX. And since LGB and BUR are on either side of LA, I thought they would all be inclusive of the LA area..



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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

Where would you find this information??
SR



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

I checked http://www.faremeasure.com/.


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User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7597 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5166 times:

Its probably something from LGA or DCA that cannot be served due to the perimeter rules.....

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

PSU.DTW.SCE-good catch...LGA-LAX, 746 daily passengers, no nonstop service...how could I have missed that one?


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User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

I wasn't aware DCA had perimiter rules what are they?

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

SLC-1250 miles, with a limited number (I believe under a dozen rotations worth) of exceptions. It would be great if somebody could remind me which flights are using those exemptions at present, thanks!


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User currently offlineLat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

BDL and PVD to LAX are up there. Hartford used to have nonstop with a 738 from AA and years ago with a UA DC-8. Newer jets may allow PVD with 7200' to someday offer it. PVD O&D #s are blunted by BOS spillover but are prob. significantly more in reality. BDL should be picked up eventually.

User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

SHUPirate1, well for one SLC, we weren't excepted for LGA so I didn't realize DCA even had a perimeter restriction

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5027 times:

LaGuardia's perimeter is at 1500 miles, except that Denver is grandfathered in due to it being served from LaGuardia before the perimeter rule was instituted. Additionally, the perimeter rule at LaGuardia does not apply on Saturday.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

Just out of curiousity, how does one find the information on O&D passengers between city pairs? Is there a website that lists it? I'd love to see it!!


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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

about a year ago I remember reading on this site about this same topic. Someone had all the stats from the DOT and the number one most unserved city pair was BWI to SEA and another in the top ten was SEA-MSY. This was at least a year ago so AS may have started to MSY by now...

I wish UA would run A319's for the LAX-RDU/PVD/BDL. We used to have non-stop service SFO-BDL on the 319 but then we pulled it after 9/11.

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User currently offlineSLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

PanAm747

http://www.faremeasure.com/


User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

What is the history behind perimeter rules?


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User currently offlineFlewGSW From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

By definition, the #1 domestic route within the USA is between:

KOA-LIH That's right, between two Hawaiian islands.

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User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9388 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Most LGA flights to/from STL continue to LAX on American. Do other airlines...like United have continuing service to the west coast for most of their LGA originating/destination flights?




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User currently offlineNorthwestEWR From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 441 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

NYC - SAT 354 passengers a day not including EWR
NYC - AUS 499 passengers a day not including EWR
everytime i fly on this route the flights are packed!!
Prices on these routes are between $300 - $400
Continental offers non-stop service from EWR but for those coming from LGA and JFK they will have to connect



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User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

Isn't the first leg of every flight technically considered a non-stop to that destination? Every airport has non-stops to somewhere.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Mike


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6483 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Flyabunch,

Don't understand your point. Of course every flight goes non-stop to somewhere. The question asked for the U.S. busiest domestic ROUTE without non-stop service. If BDL-LAX has no non-stops then that may qualify. If there should be a flight BDL-ORD-LAX that has nothing to do with the question.


User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

My point related to the topic title. I just thought there was at least a little humor in saying that a route has to have a nonstop from somewhere. I do understand the point that on a given route like BDL-LAX, there is no nonstop, but I did think that it was at least a little funny to note that every flight is a non-stop from somewhere. That is why I put the smiley, to denote that I was taking a little liberty with the seriousness of the topic.


Mike


User currently offlineEric777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Average daily number of passengers between
BDL-LAX 393 passengers
SFO-BDL 162 passengers
LAX-PVD 358 passengers



User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 25, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

CMH-LAX is 405, no nonstops (previously with HP and US 10+ years ago).

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