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Britannia Returns To Australia!  
User currently offlineBalboy From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 143 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6572 times:

I'm so pleased to tell you all that Britannia Airways is Making a return to Australia after a break of 4 years.

Flights will commence mid November 2005 and end in February 2006.
They will be operated using 767-300 Aircraft and have a premium cabin available. Charterer is Austravel, part of Thomson.

Prices start at £299 one way, £499 return, £999 return in Premium and go on sale today (09/01/05).
The routings are...

LGW-AUH-SIN-PER once a week
LGW-AUH-SIN-SYD once a week

These are direct routings with no stop overs available.

Details can be found in the forth coming Travel Trade gazette.

Regards.....

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User currently offlineVS4ever From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 120 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6543 times:

Nice to see them back there, just a shame they will be in that crap TUI livery!

Although, all the way to Oz on a charter? hmmm, might have to miss that one.

Anyway, I love Britannia (pre Tui) and good luck to them.

VS4ever



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6393 times:

Britannia even offered flights to Australia from Maastricht in the mid 90s. In that time, it were the only flights to Australia below 8/900 euro, but now QF, MH, CX, UA and SQ sometimes offer flights between west Europe and Australia as well in the 700 euro r/t range, with nicer planes (IFE), only one stop and possibilities to stop over and open jaw. I wonder if many people want to be stuck in an 8 abreast Britannia 767 for 26 hours or so while they can find a better product.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12091 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6353 times:
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That will be one long time to get from the UK to australia, would rather fly to LAX or SIN then onto the UK.

User currently offlineBananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1577 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6294 times:

Austravel are using Britannia I guess because of the lack of availability of the European Air Charter 747's.

Both businesses are within the Tui Group too so it may make better financial sense too, that's if they can sell it. Having said that, I hear that the last charters were leaving pretty full.


Mark

[Edited 2005-01-08 11:37:40]


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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

it might be a long time, but those prices dont seem too bad at all


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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 795 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6138 times:

Hi,

They are good prices but I presume you would have to be on a package with Austravel? I hope they are increasing there seat and widening the seats for that length of flight?

I hope passengers are more impressed this time around:

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Regards
ThomasCook




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User currently offlineBananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1577 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

I doubt verey much that you would have to book a package...

You didn't when they were selling the EAF flights.



Mark



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User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Excuse my ignorance, but what does AUH stand for?

Will tickets be available for Australian passengers?

QFF


User currently offlineBy738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

Oh I could think of nothing worse than travelling that distance on a BY 763.
God help those in the 28" pitch in the back. Their will need to be a run on DVT flightsocks.


User currently offlineBy188b From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5989 times:

I think AUH is Abu Dhabi. Thats where the flights stopped last time


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User currently offlineBalboy From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5954 times:

763's don't have 28" seat pitch..

AUH is Abu Dhabi.

Previous flights to AUS were full and the majority of passengers were happy to be able to fly to Australia relatively cheap.



User currently offlineEldoylio From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 96 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

G-OBYH and G-OBYJ both have 31" seat pitch in the non-premium seats.

Still a bit of a squeeze though!



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User currently offlineBy738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

"763's don't have 28" seat pitch.."

Sorry correction 30". What a difference......
"On a long haul flight our standard seat has a pitch of 30* inches (76.2 cms)"
From Britanniaairways.com

Still wouldnt touch it with a barge pole. Albeit full scheduled more expensive flights, the following offer seat pitches
BA 744 At least 31"
QF 744 At least 31"
VS 744 At least 32"
SQ 744 At least 32"
CX 744 At least 32"
Per SeatGuru.com

You gets what you pays for I suppose. And there will be a market for it I sure.
It will be funny to hear people moan about it once they've flown.
What do you expect for that type of money- a flat-bed !!!???



User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5855 times:

Will Britannia 767s operaing to Australia still be configured 8 abreast? Not many other 767 operators configure 767s 8 abreast, its usually 7 isnt it?

User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

I agree with BY738: a trip from more than 22 hrs with seat pitch of 28 or 30 in is horror. And Britannia has 2-4-2 seating instead of 2-3-2 on 767.

And concerning prices: Australia has very low yield from Germany, QF offers (ex Germany) for GBP 480 both ways + taxes (all together from GBP 553).
Also 2 domestic flights (9,20 GBP each) are available. So the price is very low for the distance but, as I mentioned, yield is very low.

What is Premium Class like? And would you fly from LON to PER via SYD???


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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5791 times:

Wow this is great news  Smile

Its a shame that TUI colors will be seen there. The poor Ausies wont know what hit them! Cover you eyes ! Sad


User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5790 times:

lol@Pilot kaz, I have an Australian friend and he loves the TUI knob!



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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5781 times:

How many pax do they stuff into the 763? Probobly the max allowed, 350.


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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

The TUI scheme is horrid, now I like blue aircraft such as KLM but TUI adding the billboard red text make it look like someone has puked all over it!

It looks way to charter now, at least the classic had some sort of potential to it.


User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

lol, pilot. Some like it, some don't. But I hope Britannia will let passengers go into plane and dont let them fly on the wings, so they needn't see the colors all the time  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineDColeMAN From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 274 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5753 times:

It looks way to charter now, at least the classic had some sort of potential to it.

Very true Kaz. Great news for Britannia though  Smile

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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5751 times:

But I hope Britannia will let passengers go into plane and dont let them fly on the wings, so they needn't see the colors all the time

If I ever had to sit on the wing and look at that scheme for that amount of time....OMG!

I send you my will in advance  Big grin


User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

DeltaWings,

Currently BY stuff 328 (315 with Premium) into there 767-300ER's


Edit to add:



Full size: http://www.britanniaairways.com/Images/767_315.gif


[Edited 2005-01-08 16:29:32]

User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

8 abreat in a 767 is fine for Britannia's routes to the Med and Canaries but not for a flight to Australia!!

25 NumberTwelve : So Britannia's "Premium Class" is just another ordinary Economy Class for other airlines: 2-3-2 is nothing special for a 767. And what about the cater
26 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Well on there charter flight at the moment you have to pay extra for a meal. But this is on flights such as LTN-FVT and they use 757's for these route
27 NumberTwelve : Pilot_kaz, I guess we think too long winded, imagine 315 paxe + fa + pilots and 5 (FIVE) toilets, means: a toilet for 66 people. This means that eatin
28 Post contains images Pilot kaz : AUH being where? The mouse over does not work
29 Post contains images NumberTwelve : AUH is Abu Dhabi (close to DXB), but read reply 27 My first thought was that meals in Abu Dhabi but problem is 1 toilet for 66 passengers. This may wo
30 Post contains images DColeMAN : AUH is Abu Dhabi Kaz Dale
31 Spike : That is a picture of hell. 23 hours in-side that? With the cheapest of the cheap? Yuk.
32 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Thanks Hmmm the only reason I can think is for topping up, food Fuel etc as you said. Or could it be that BY would be offering LGW-AUH flights also? T
33 NumberTwelve : Spike, I will fly to BNE in June this year - and already the idea makes my back hurt. And imagine: GBP 999 for normal 2-3-2 seating in so-called "Prem
34 Spike : Yeah, and chickens can actualy fly for free! Although maybe not all the way to Brisbane.
35 Balboy : Britannia successfully operated Australia flights previously for 10 years. Where on earth did the statement " eating is forbidden " come from. On prev
36 Post contains links NumberTwelve : Balboy, the statement "eating is forbidden" comes from http://www.britanniaairways.com - and successfully means "earning money" ? If so, were they for
37 Spike : Well if shoving 315 people into a 767 isn't snobbery in calling yourself an airline rather than a human cargo carrier...
38 Post contains images Pilot kaz : Imagine if they had to send a 757 on that route
39 Post contains images NumberTwelve : I think Britannia has to change the interieur - guess it's impossible with 5 toilets for 320 people on long haul and almost no galley, also 2-4-2 is h
40 Balboy : NumberTwelve. I still don't understand your statement "eating is forbidden". Of course you can eat, and yes of course there are galleys. Also, to try
41 NumberTwelve : Balboy, you have to agree that we have to make a difference between comfort and price. Price is ok but travelling 2-4-2 in a 767 is everything but ok.
42 Orion737 : I dont like knocking Britannia airways but they have gone terribly downhill since selling out to TUI. They were once a proud airline with a good servi
43 Spike : I just wish half off Stoke-on-Trent wern't able to fly to SYD for 400 quid. No wonder the Ozzies hate us.
44 Balboy : If other Airlines offer a more comfortable flight at a similar price over the Australian summer season then great.If Britannia want to start a UK-AUS
45 Spike : What is the total flight time Balboy? How long do you get on the ground in Abu Dhabi and Singapore?
46 Cedarjet : Ugh, usual speculation. How many of you have flown to Oz with a variety of airlines? Because if you had, you'd know Emirates fly 777s ten abreast in Y
47 Balboy : Usually 1 hour on the ground in both AUH and SIN was the norm, enough time for the passengers to have a ciggie and do a bit of shopping, especially in
48 Cedarjet : Why the two stops? If people can't break their journey in Singapore, it seems pointless when you can fly two nine hour legs with a single stop in Colo
49 Post contains images DeltaWings : Why the two stops? If people can't break their journey in Singapore, it seems pointless when you can fly two nine hour legs with a single stop in Colo
50 Gilesdavies : I dont mean to be advertising... But these prices on BY are nothing fantastic, and the thought of travelling on a 763 eight a breast is evil, wouldn't
51 Angelairways : Prices are fantastic People are stupid and do not enquire about the plane they'll be flying on or the seat pitch. They buy on price. They will be goin
52 Post contains images A340600 : OUch, bit cramped! Good news to have a LGW-Australia service back again after European went, Sam
53 Bananaboy : WHy stop in AUH? I remember reading a while back that Air 2000 used to use AUH as a stop for commercial reasons... the airline would receive a commiss
54 Aerorobnz : If I was cramped on easyjet with their pitch,the same would apply for BY-especially over that distance. I'll stick with SQ for flying to/from Europe a
55 Rb211ltn : What is wrong with EZY's seat pitch. EZY is 31", the same as Virgin Atlantic. And we do not get many complaints there. I thought that this was a discu
56 Post contains links Crosswind : easyjet's seat pitch is 29" Pitch (distance between back of seat and back of seat in front): 29" (approx. 72.5cm) Width (distance between armrests): 1
57 Post contains links By738 : What is wrong with EZY's seat pitch. EZY is 31", the same as Virgin Atlantic I dont know where you got that figure.....Easyjet seat pitch is 29" as pe
58 Bmi : Hey, I flew from MAN via LGW on BY to MLE last Winter and the 2-4-2 seating was fine, legroom was ok and service pretty much standard of any UK charte
59 BDRules : Now guys I have done this trip back in 1994 and it was fine. Cramped but fine. Honestly I think everyone who is living in a dream world or only travel
60 Shamrock_747 : Having flown on BY 767s on 4 hour flights recently I'd never consider flying on them to Aus. I do see it as a good thing that they will enable more pe
61 PlaneSmart : Stu You're right about 1994. There was very little price competition on Australia / NZ to Europe routes, other than via charters. In fact there were G
62 Bmi : Last year I flew an EK 777 to DXB and to be honest was so chuffed when I got off I couldnt believe it. The whole flight was a shambles compared to the
63 Bananaboy : Horses for courses I guess... I certainly would consider them for a long haul flight...heck I did MAN-LGW-MCO-PVR with BY a few years back. Wasn't unc
64 Aerorobnz : I wouldn't mock BY on this route except it is no cheaper than the majors, and as a backpacker I don't have a lot of money to spend on airfares, but if
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