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Mexicana Launch Customer For A350?  
User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Apparently, Airbus is seeking a Latin American carrier to
help launch the A350 and Mexicana has been approached
and is a likely candidate.

Anyone have any information on this ???

It would seem logical especially since Mexicana already a
major Airbus candidate.

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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

Errrrrr, no, I think Air Europa is launch customer. I heard something to the tune of a commitment for 10(?) aircraft. Then again, that may be like the 250 "commitments" Boeing has for 7E7 and therefore isn't a firm order (yet?), so yes, possible assuming Mexicana doesn't go for 7E7.

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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 8217 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Firstly, I think it sounds awesome but I have my doubts that it will happen.

Okay, so MX was back in the black for fiscal year 2004 (and expects to stay that way from now on). And, sure, MX is one of Airbus' darlings in Latin America.

The question is, will MX afford to acquire two, three, four A350's when it is in the middle of enlarging its A32X fleet and has been in the red for the past few fiscal years? Okay, so the A350 is still years and years away and MX would not need to pay for it(them) now, but I think the question still holds. And is it in MX's best interest to get the type when its only long-haul route is MEX-EZE and the A350 would be too much airplane (in terms of range) for this route?

Let's talk about Asia. Apparently flying to Europe is no longer a plan for MX. It seems that the powers to be at CINTRA decided Europe is for AM only. So that leaves us with Asia. Can the A350 fly non-stop MEX-NRT, MEX-PVG or MEX-HKG? I am sure that the prospected range will be sufficient, but then we have to consider the strong headwinds when crossing the Pacific and the high altitude of MEX. Let's suppose range is not an issue. MX would not only need to make the decision to fly to Asia first, but it would need to evaluate whether an A350 can be adequately filled. Is it too big a plane for starting a new route that nobody has ever done before and that, therefore, nobody can tell for sure how it would work? Another factor: no matter how cozy MX and Airbus are, MX would need to consider and evaluate, if its management is smart and reasonable, whether the 7E7 could offer better economics than the A350 for its specific needs.

So, sorry if I made more questions than gave answers, but as much as I would love MX to be LatAm's launch customer of the A350, I feel I must exercise some common sense here.

EDIT: I think NAVEGA meant that Airbus wants a Latin American "launch" customer too. Or, in other words, in addition to UX, Airbus wants MX to be one of the first carriers to order the type. In this sense, Airbus may also be looking for a U.S. carrier and for an Asian carrier to be "launch" customers together with a European airline (UX) and a Latin American carrier.

[Edited 2005-01-08 06:44:04]

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User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Why would MX get the A350? I think the A350 is still on diapers and MX doesn´t like to experiment. So far MX hasn´t even tried the A330. Also, I don´t think MX, nor AM will engage for large investment right at this point when CINTRA is for sale.

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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

They should at first decide which airline of CINTRA will become the dedicated long-haul carrier. Both carriers doesn't have alot to offer so far, so I think it is too early to say if MX could become a A350 customer.

User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7513 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4469 times:
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I'm with Anthsaun. Mexican airlines don't like to experiment. They are followers, not leaders. I doubt Mexicana will go for the "risk" of launching a new airliner. Better stay with what already is out (A-340, A-330 etc.)

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

I believe that Airbus might have approached them, but I don't think MX will go for it. Mexicana and LanChile are the two healthier airlines in Latin America, MX won't do it, maybe LAN will

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5299 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4138 times:

Nice joke! A mexican carrier being a launch customer? Perhaps in 10/15 years, not now! I see MX getting A330's and A340s first! As stated above, mexican carriers love to copy patterns! They don't like to risk! They're famous for that!

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User currently offlineTravellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

MX may be an Airbus darling for A320's, but they operate Boeing heavies (757 and 767), so I wouldn't assume they are in Airbus' pocket.

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