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A380-Ready Airports. How Many?  
User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16103 times:

How many airports are ready to accept the A380? Especially here in the US. Anyone have a good guess?


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User currently offlineElephantboy From Thailand, joined Sep 2003, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 16030 times:

Bangkok's new Suvarnabhumi Airport will have a new concourse for A380s but I'm not quite sure when.

User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15996 times:

I think it depends on what you mean by 'ready'. A lot of people here talk as though lack of an appropriate gate or parking area means that an airport couldn't 'handle' the A380; but whether this is true depends on what they mean.

Certainly in, the case of an emergency, most bigger airports could handle the 380 in the sense that it doens't need abnormal runways or anything. The problem would be having the proper equipment to deplane pax and baggage, etc. (Some of these problems would come up with any new plane, of course.)

One area where this is a very important question, though, is taxiways.
The 380 could LAND at most major airports, but I believe there are concerns about it having room to move around properly once it's at the airport without accidentally stepping on some grass or sinking in, etc. I'm honestly not sure at how many airports this would be a problem, and maybe that's the real question here.

As for having terminals (specifically, gates) that are ready to handle the A380, there are very very few at this point. But why SHOULD there be any more right now? Obviously they are not needed for at least another year or two, and airports could in most cases modify gates fairly easily, I think. Of course, at airports that will be welcoming several A380 at once (i.e. FRA, CDG, SIN, and especially DXB), work must already be well underway on this, if not finished. (I'm not sure of any specifics at these airports, perhaps others could elaborate.) YUL, for example, is currently not "A380 ready", I guess, insofar as there aren't currently any gates that are designed for the plane. However, there will be one in a matter of months, in plenty of time for anticipated AF 380 service in 2007. So, no worries!

Jean Leloup.



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User currently offlineBrowntailwhale From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15976 times:

Add SDF to your list.

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15972 times:

MEL is undergoing runway widening work April-June 2005.
Apron being extended right now.
terminal extension and upgrade completed by November 2005.

Melbourne will be go by early 2006.



User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25125 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15961 times:
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AAplatnumflier:

Tulsa is A380 ready? Quelle surpris, as the French would say.

Perhaps you meant TLS - Toulouse, in France, which is not so hard to spell.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15851 times:

SFO is ready, in terms of aprons, terminals and jetways

User currently onlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2954 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 15806 times:

SFO maybe ready but will have a headache in terms of operations due to the wide wingspan. Hence, adjacent taxing aircraft will have be be held or size limited. I gather this is probably the biggest problem at US airports including many gates only have single boarding bridges.

Most Asian hub airports are all set operations-wise (HKG, SIN, KUL, BKK (new), PVG, PEK, NRT, KIX, NGO. All these airports already have large numbers of double boarding bridges at each gate. It's up to each airport to install an upper boarding bridge now. I tend to think this is an unneeded requirement as any mobility-disadvantaged pax can just be seated in the main-deck.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15683 times:

SFO--at least in terms of terminal accommodation and the recently widened Runways 28R/10L and 01R/19L--is ready for the A380-800. After all, the current International Terminal (Concourses A and G) were designed and built just when Airbus was completing the A3XX design.

Yes, the taxiway crowding can be an issue, but the initial commercial flight using the A388 (most likely Singapore Airlines' SQ 001/002 flight) will fly in and out of SFO at a time when taxiway crowding is not a major issue. I think SFO will probably do some taxiway realignment and changes in taxiing procedures before other airlines--notably LH and VS--start their A388 flights to SFO from late 2007 on.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12104 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15661 times:
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In New Zealand CHC is ready. Also in Australia, Adalade is ready.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15627 times:

AKL says they are ready, but they can barely handle 2 or 3 widebodies at a time at the moment

User currently offlineFRASYD From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15530 times:

MUC was the first to be certified in Europe.
FRA is ready (have the gate facilities in T2, RWY 25R is big enough, TWY's wide enough) but is not yet certified...


User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15458 times:

FRASYD,

you beat me with your response.
I think FRA's Terminal 2 is ready but they are currently working at Terminal 1, Concourse B where the A380s from Star carriers will be handled. Runways and Taxiways should be ready.


User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 15446 times:

Montreal YUL's new international concourse is opening this year and it will have a gate designed specifically for Air France's A380. So just about ready.

User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15433 times:

got to agreee with zksuj on akl, not sure whats happening there at all, I know the new aircraft stands which have just been conpleted are ready for the a380, but i dout the airport would want to bus 600 pax to the aircraft now!!


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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15391 times:

AA Plat(i)num: "I think there is only one and that is TUL or Tolouse...however you spell it"

First of all I guess you don't think about Tulsa - and the "however you spell it" city is Toulouse with an extra "u".

Sorry, AA, but this reflects the high quality reply (as others of the 380 bashing threats).



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8445 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15382 times:

how many airports can handle a 777 and then I think you will find your answer.

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7519 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15348 times:

Looks like we have some another thread or two covering the same subject:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1899714/

[Edited 2005-01-12 14:30:53]


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15307 times:

AF is the 1st euro-airliner to get 380 w GP 7200 engine in April 2007 and routes will be to US (NY)and Canada (Montreal), Beijing and Tokyo 2008, according to Google alert-Airbus.

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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15291 times:

Well with 45 on order, I'm pretty sure Dubai is/or about to be fully ready to receive the masses...


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15291 times:

Zurich has two gates which can made ready for the A380 within a short time. But unfortunately I think we won't get any for many years.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15159 times:

Here in the USA, I expect the following airports to be A380-800 ready as soon as possible:

SFO (new International Terminal was designed to be A388-compatible)
JFK (most airlines flying A388 will fly to this airport)
MIA (heavy tourist and business traffic)
MCO (heavy tourist traffic)
SDF (support UPS A380-800F's)
MEM (support FedEx A380-800F's)

In a few years afterward, I see these airports getting A388 compatibility:

LAX (many airlines flying A388 will fly to this airport)
ORD (a few airlines will fly to this airport due to heavy business traffic)
DEN (plentiful expansion to support A388)
LAS (heavy tourist traffic)
IAD (heavy business, government and tourist traffic)


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 15117 times:

If I am reading into this correctly, it sounds as though most of these airports only have one runway resrved for the A380. What about runway closings, or prohibitive crosswinds. I see 747s use EWR's 6,800' rwy29 when the winds are right. And what about alternates in case of emergencies? I know they dump fuel, but, are pax and baggage next?


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User currently offlineGoomba From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15003 times:

Will ATL ever see the A380? I sure hope so.

User currently offlineThegregster From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

I know the only airports in the united kingdom who are able to accept the A380 are Manchester and heathrow.


25 Ianatstn : I'm surprised nobody has mentioned LHR yet... what is Heathrow's current status in regard to the A380? Cheers, Ian.
26 FJWH : What about AMS?? Ready for the A380?
27 Blackbird1331 : FJWH: You need to consider who ordered the aircraft, and which routes do they fly. When an aircraft takes off, it needs some place to land. In the cas
28 Erj145lr : IAD is in the process... actually 1/2 way there!
29 Thegregster : Terminal 5 at heathrow is being constructed at the moment and will be the main gates for the A380
30 Blackbird1331 : Thegregster: How many A380s could the new terminal hold at any one time? I guess the waiting areas will have to pretty huge to hold the maximum number
31 Motorhussy : AKL says bring it on! and watch the share price inrease. MH
32 OO-VEG : AMS is partially ready. The new runway "polderbaan" is suitable for the A380. Also the concrete of some gates at the E-Pier have been strengthened so
33 MEA310 : BEY have been ready for the A380 since the announcment of the A380 programme! At the time BEY was still in its early renovating phases & they kept in
34 Rtfm : LHR - a new pier is being built at T3 for A380 which will ready for VS/EK/QR, plus T5 will be A380 compatible should QF want to op A380 there.
35 AirbusfanYYZ : YYZ will have the capacity to support 380 ops, although it is unlikely to be seen here. Our most likely chance would be a diversion from YUL or JFK. C
36 Qantasheavy : Alliance in Fort Worth, Texas, will likely be A380 ready for FedEx... but not passengers. DFW should be able to handle one on the ground and at the ne
37 Blackbird1331 : CBS Evening News had a report on the unveiling on the 380, and, they too, raised the question of preparedness of airports being able to accept this tr
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