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SQs MAN/ZRH Traffic Rights  
User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Why does SQ have traffic rights between MAN and ZRH? I can't imagine any passengers actually fly this route with SQ as they only offer the full unrestricted fare of over £900 return. I understand that SQ would much rather have a passenger travelling all the way through to SIN, but it seems odd that they have these rights but deter customers from using them. Any thoughts?

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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2650 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
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Singapore Airlines' fares on the route used to be much cheaper; they've been operating MAN-ZRH for over 10 years...

I'd assume they regard any MAN-ZRH pax as an inconvenience - ie having to offload a few bags at a time when you're trying to onload hundreds of others, and as such aren't interested unless they can gouge the highest fares possible out of them!


User currently offlineFlySwiss From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 446 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

I checked last fall the SQ's fare for ZRH-MAN-ZRH somewhre in the web and I found a fare for CHF 180.-- plus tax.

SQ is flying this route only twice a week on tuesdays and thurdays. I can't image that SQ has a lot of pax traffic between ZRH and MAN.

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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

This kind of route they don't fly just to sell ZRH-MAN but they combine two cities as a SIN-ZRH-MAN-SIN wouldn't work out.

As it has been mentioned, they are selling good priced tickets if anyone want's to go on them. But they don't push it in Switzerland.

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User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

SQ also has combined AMS with MAN in the Past


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

SQ operated fifth freedom sectors intra-Europe for decades because until recently there weren't economical medium-sized long haul aircraft capable of working nonstop point-to-point flights. Today only ZRH-MAN is left.

As Swissgabe has mentioned, SQ has never really pushed those flights, and unlike what some people on this forum seem to believe, those fifth freedoms are hardly lucrative. With only a handful of frequencies, SQ can only attract a small number of leisure travellers. Sometimes, they offer rockbottom fares to try and get some revenue, however little. Other times, they don't bother and only list unrestricted fares.

The only time I recall SQ actually promoting a fare was a joint fare between CX and SQ on AMS-MAN (did I just hear a thump? Must be Singapore_Air fainting at the idea of the two airlines cooperating!). There was a period in 1997-98 when the two flew six combined frequencies between AMS and MAN and they had a special fare. Even then, only a small handful of leisure travellers bought it... the only times there were significant numbers of paxs were when either city hosted its respective gay pride/mardi gras  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3527 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

I have flown the route twice as part of a *A RTW. Great airline for this short hop!

Similarly, I've flown:
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