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Loads On My Air Canada And Air Canada Jazz Flights  
User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Hi There,
could anybody tell me what are the loads on the following flights. They are all in the same day. I will be flying:

DEC 31
YHZ-YUL AC183 (AIRBUS 319)
YUL-YOW AC1183 (CRJ)
YOW-YTZ AC7861 (DASH 8-100)


any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Ales



Next Flight: Dec 06 PRG-WAW ATR72, Dec 07 WAW-PRG ATR42 with Czech Airlines.
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User currently offlineCYLW From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

huh? December 31st?? Thats like 11 months away

User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1025 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5660 times:

I'll take a stab in the dark and say right now there is only one pax booked on each of those flights on that date, and that's you.  Big grin



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User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5020 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5529 times:

As per his signature, it looks like Jan 31  Smile



User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

Sorry guys,
i meant January 31 2005.

Please someone can tell me what are you loads?

Thanks
Ales



Next Flight: Dec 06 PRG-WAW ATR72, Dec 07 WAW-PRG ATR42 with Czech Airlines.
User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 818 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

From what I could bring up,
AC 183: 12J/56Y, total 68 seats open
AC 1183: 00J/22Y, total 22 seats open
QK 7861: 33Y, total 33 seats open



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User currently offlineViveLeYHZ From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 194 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5415 times:

YHZ-YUL load factors used to be low on AC's list, and I don't think this has changed. AC now flies 4 A-319's to YUL daily (they used to fly BA-146 Jazz). So it seems their capacity might be the same as before.

Not sure about the other flights.



User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

AC_777

thanks a lot for the info.

do you mind if I ask for the same info lets say one or two days before my departure.

Thanks
Ales



Next Flight: Dec 06 PRG-WAW ATR72, Dec 07 WAW-PRG ATR42 with Czech Airlines.
User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 818 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5306 times:

Sure, you can ask, and I'll try to find out, but I can't promise.
But, give it a try anyways.



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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

do you mind if I ask for the same info lets say one or two days before my departure.

Why do you need to know this? You'll find out after you board anyway. Are you going to cancel your trip if there are too many/too few other passengers?  Smile


User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5249 times:

Given the nature of the world today, I would think very hard before posting that sort of information on a public forum.

User currently offlineYVR99 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

Huh? What sort of information? Trip plans and loads are posted all the time on this board...

YVR99



DH8,146,319,320,321,332,333,343,732,733,735,737,738,752,762,763,741,742,744,MD80,DC10
User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5239 times:

I know, but loads on specific flights are a bit sensitive for pretty obvious reasons, IMHO. I think everyone with access to that information should think long and hard before giving it out. Yes, I know there are other ways for bad guys to get it, and ultimately if they want to do something, they will, and you may think it doesn't matter, but you never know. Personally I'd feel a lot better knowing that the general public did not have any data about a flight I was on.

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

Personally I'd feel a lot better knowing that the general public did not have any data about a flight I was on.

That sounds like extreme paranoia to me. That information is readily available to the public. All you have to do is make a seat selection on the airline's web site. That usually brings up a seat map showing what seats are still available.


User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

The other issue is that it is against company policy to publicly release proprietary information like actual loads on flights. If you want to help, be less specific. (1/2 full, lot's of seats left, jammed full)

User currently offlineYhmfan From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

If you want to know AC's load factors all you have to do is ask the Westjet executives!!  Big grin

PS I still don't get it, are you really asking about load factors a year from now or are we in some theoretical time warp?

[Edited 2005-01-16 06:42:41]


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User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2744 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

I know, but loads on specific flights are a bit sensitive for pretty obvious reasons, IMHO. I think everyone with access to that information should think long and hard before giving it out. Yes, I know there are other ways for bad guys to get it, and ultimately if they want to do something, they will, and you may think it doesn't matter, but you never know. Personally I'd feel a lot better knowing that the general public did not have any data about a flight I was on.

I could call right now and get the load, it is very much available to people like stand by's etc. Don't be so paranoid.


User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5085 times:

I could call right now and get the load, it is very much available to people like stand by's etc. Don't be so paranoid.

That may be true, but the employee giving you that information is risking loosing their job and or flight benefits for disclosing that information to you. It's not being paranoid, it's releasing information that is not publically available. It's one thing to pass along the info to a friend or colleague, but to publically post it is another and in violation of the rules posted on the employee website.


User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5050 times:

Hi There,
I just wanted to know and the reason is, when I was flying last time this route one of my flights was overbooked and they gave me 300 dollar voucher and a flight in the first class, if I can catch the next flight.

I used that voucher to buy this ticket, so want to see how many spaces available so maybe I can hope for overbooking again.

That's the only reason, i wanted to know this info.

Thanks
Ales



Next Flight: Dec 06 PRG-WAW ATR72, Dec 07 WAW-PRG ATR42 with Czech Airlines.
User currently offlineAlespesl From Czech Republic, joined Jan 2004, 583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Olympus69:

Well AC does not offer the seat selection for Tango fares on its website for free, they charge $15.00 per seat and flight segment, and I ain't gonna spend another 45 dollars to choose my seats.

Ales



Next Flight: Dec 06 PRG-WAW ATR72, Dec 07 WAW-PRG ATR42 with Czech Airlines.
User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 694 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

That may be true, but the employee giving you that information is risking loosing their job and or flight benefits for disclosing that information to you. It's not being paranoid, it's releasing information that is not publically available. It's one thing to pass along the info to a friend or colleague, but to publically post it is another and in violation of the rules posted on the employee website.

this information is very publically available. there are several websites showing seat availability by booking class.


User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5031 times:

this information is very publically available. there are several websites showing seat availability by booking class

Care to post those websites. I have heard this argument before, recently from exec's at WJ. The info from those websites is not 100% accurate.


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