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G-BXKD Leaves Wheel On Runway At LGW!  
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 19040 times:

Hello,

Just had a call from LGW. G-BXKD, a TCX 320 has left the left nose wheel on the runway after takeoff. I'm currently listening to the pilot who should be coming back in for finals anytime. Will update when I know more,


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Sam


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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24960 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18909 times:

Sheesh, sounds pretty serious  Wow!
Hope all works out well



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18887 times:

OMG i hope they land safe!

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18853 times:

Pilots killing time, trying to dump as much fuel as possible at the mo,

Sam



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User currently offlineJamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18820 times:

Whats his intentions, to circle for a few hours to burn all fuel?

Any chance of streaming the atc?


Jamo

[Edited 2005-01-15 17:15:40]

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18800 times:

"trying to dump as much fuel as possible"

He'll have trouble dumping it from an A320.... they don't have such a facility. Assume he's just burning it in the hold?



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18759 times:

I'm listening to it on dxtuners.com.

I've been on this A320 as well, back in 1999. Poor guys.



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User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2385 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18758 times:

Doesn't sounds too great! Keep us updated Sam!  Smile

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18732 times:

Where was the flight scheduled to?, this will give us an idea of how much fuel he has to burn off.

J


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18711 times:

Looks like the Plovdiv or Sofia...


I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18676 times:

He'll have trouble dumping it from an A320.... they don't have such a facility

Me bad. No updates currently,

Sam



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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2037 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18668 times:

If it is just the nosewheel hopefully they will be able to set it down with no harm to anything but the aircraft. I'm sure it's something they train for. Fingers crossed.




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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24960 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18662 times:

TCX162/163K according to MYT332 in the chat


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User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18658 times:

Sofia, was Airbourne 14:35 according to baa.com


I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18637 times:

Yea TCX 163K.....

From BAA.com

14.15 TCX163K SOFIA AIRBORNE 1435



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User currently offlineVirgincrew From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18635 times:

I used to fly on that a/c when I worked for JMC (Same airline). Their training will be in force for a pre-meditated landing. They'll be preparing the cabin and pax's now for an emergency landing.


Hello Beautiful !!!
User currently offlineAlauvsta From Norway, joined Oct 2004, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18588 times:

The clue would be to apply up elevator to keep the nose off the ground for as long as possible. Does anybody know how the fly-by-wire logic of the Airbus would work in this scenario? Could you just keep holding the sidestick aft like on a conventional aircraft, or would it be necessary to go into direct law or something?

User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2037 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18532 times:

I think it would already be in direct law once there is a weight-on-wheels condition. It's something Airbus will have certainly provided for.


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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18492 times:

Coming in on finals now.

Sam



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2601 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18318 times:
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The seriousness of this incident is largely dependant on whether they have left a tyre on the runway, which does happen from time to time, or whether they have lost the nosewheel - which is almost unheard of.

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18221 times:

Landed! Runway 08R/26L are now closed for a while,

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineBritannia From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18139 times:

OK down and being towed onto stand.

Iain


User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18124 times:

Thank god its down safe a bit if a tense moment there.

User currently offlineAngelairways From United Kingdom, joined Nov 1999, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18042 times:

if it went that smooth was it only half the nosewheel then?

or was it just a piece of the nosewheel?

couldn't have been that smooth with bare metal could it?


User currently offlineBritannia From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18024 times:

Burst nose wheel tire I think.

Iain


25 IDAWA : Very likely that the other tire burst due to the overload on landing, having to bear the weight usually divided among the two tires. I'm very happy th
26 GKirk : Understand they're now using 8L for arrivals/departures at LGW now?
27 Bizzell0 : How can I listen to Gatwick ATC through the net?
28 Post contains links MYT332 : Ok, so as you know I listened to the Live ATC through DXtuners but since i'm nice I also recorded parts of it for you and hosted it. So here it is...
29 Post contains links Demoose : Story has now just hit the media: BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/southern_counties/4177989.stm http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id
30 Jamotcx : The Thomas Cook Boeing 737 was flying from the West Sussex airport to the Bulgarian capital Sofia when the front wheel fell off early in the flight So
31 Jetset7E7 : Nice work from the flight and ground crew to get it down safely. It just shows that training does pay off. Great ATC clips Alex Mark[Edited 2005-01-15
32 European : Hey, I heard the planes had been diverted to Bournemouth, Is this true? What sort of airlines, Planes are here at Bournemouth? And when will they be g
33 AzoresLover : Alex - Thanks for the clips of ATC! Much appreciated! I don't get to hear things like that very often!
34 Post contains images RichM : I went on this aircraft in 2003 on holiday! Poor plane. Glad to hear it wasn't a serious accident.
35 MartinairYYZ : Woah, glad to hear it finished off safely..... I didn't know TC flew to Sofia..? Cheers
36 Go3Team : MYT332: If more bandwidth is needed, I have loads.
37 GKirk : European, afaik no planes diverted.
38 1millionflyer : I am amazed everytime I see a post concerning landing gear. As a pilot I can honestly say losing any tire is about .001% of an emergency, and yes, I h
39 AC848 : Glad to hear it landed safety and that all on board are safe. My special thanks to MYT332 for providing the ATC link - was very interesting to listen
40 Qantasheavy : Regarding "finals"... I think that came from shortening "final approach". I grant you that adding an "s" isn't a natural progression, but it may sound
41 VScaptain : Glad everyone's safe!
42 Post contains images Brian_ga : Sam, thanks for with keeping us updated and getting those recordings !!! AWESOME JOB !!! Brian_ga !!!!!
43 AngelAirways : MartinairYYZ, TCX as well as BY and other charter airlines do regular ski charters to Sofia (for Borovets Resort). On saturdays there can be about 6 c
44 GKirk : As a pilot I can honestly say losing any tire is about .001% of an emergency Am I right in thinking that it's not normally one of the nose wheels you
45 MYT332 : Sam, thanks for with keeping us updated and getting those recordings !!! Im Alex.
46 Post contains images A340600 : Sam, thanks for with keeping us updated and getting those recordings !!! Thanks, but credit also to Alex, he got the recordings. Anyway, sorry haven't
47 A340600 : Correction to self, 08R was still closed at 10pm last night, Sam
48 RichM : Does anyone have any pictures of the scene? Thanks.
49 A340600 : I think photos are likely. Light was still around, just, when this incident occured. Also, Terry Wade, an ANET photogrpaher works in Gatwick Tower so
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