B727fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 295 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3194 times:
I was driving in NJTPK north passing the airport today (11:30 am). The entire terminal B gates were empty! I saw the El Al 777 parked on the ramp (not at the gates though) and AI 747 was parked @ Terminal C!!
I know that the renovation of the terminal is planned, and was wondering if it has started, and if so, it seems strange that the work is not being done in phases! Just curious to know how come in the middle of the day, on a Saturday, there were absolutely no planes parked at the "B" gates?! Any info, or updates about the airport?
Thanks in advance.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 31 Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3172 times:
My best guess is that the international arrivals have not arrived yet. Terminal B holds mostly these international carriers, and they usually arrive in the early to late afternoon. There may have also been some planes there that you couldn't see, because they were in such a position that the Terminal B building was blocking them.
As for construction, I thought they had completed construction on Terminal B a few years ago, but I could be wrong.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16555 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
"I was driving in NJTPK north passing the airport today (11:30 am). The entire terminal B gates were empty! "
Most international arrivals (especially from Europe) don't start arriving untill 1PM, have you ever been to JFK at 11:30AM. Looks like Mirabel airport during rush hour.
They just announced the expansion and modernization of terminal B a month or two ago, they have to do all the prelimenary enginering work and enviromental reviews before construction can start. Should be the end of '05 or early '06 before construction can begin.
If you want to see Terminal B at it's peak visit between 3Pm-7PM.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16555 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3158 times:
"As for construction, I thought they had completed construction on Terminal B a few years ago, but I could be wrong."
Terminal B underwent renovations in 1989, 1994 and 1996.
1989 is when the International Arrivals facility moved from Terminal C (former stub concourse) to the B-3 concourse, prior to the Eastern strike in 1989 Eastern used both the B-2 and B-3 concourses. After Eastern's strike they consolidated all their flights into the B-2 concourse which left the B-3 concourse vacant, the Port Authority took over the B-3 concourse turned it into the new International arrivals facility. That allowed SAS to transfer their NYC operations from JFK to EWR, it also allowed CO to expand it's International flights.
After Eastern shut down in 1991 the Port Authority took over their B-2 concourse and began to integrate that concourse into the existing B-3 International arrivals facility, that was completed by 1994.
In 1996 the Port Authority opened the modern arrivals hall which we see today, intergrating the entire International arrivals facility.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16555 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3148 times:
This is an abstract from the Port Authority's press-release page, you can read more at http://www.panynj.com
"NEWARK LIBERTY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TAKES MAJOR STEP TO PREPARE FOR AIR PASSENGER GROWTH
Date: December 09, 2004
Press Release Number: 154-2004
The Port Authority Board of Commissioners today approved nearly $280 million to modernize Terminal B and related facilities at Newark Liberty International Airport. This program will enable the airport to accommodate a projected increase in air passengers within the next 15 years.
Long-range forecasts indicate that air traffic will continue to grow at the airport and reach 45 million annual air passengers by 2021. The airport currently serves approximately 32 million annual passengers.
Improvements will be made to provide for additional ticketing areas, expansion of the existing ticketing areas, passenger screening points and the construction of a new domestic baggage claim area, which will allow greater efficiency for the screening process and baggage handling. The Port Authority expects to begin the planning and design in 2005.
Acting New Jersey Governor Richard J. Codey said, “Newark Liberty International Airport is one of New Jersey’s most important transportation facilities, generating 110,000 jobs – including more than $11.3 billion a year in economic activity. This project is a significant step as this regional gateway prepares to accommodate additional passengers in the coming years. As the airport grows, our state’s economy attracts new businesses and travelers to New Jersey.”
Port Authority Chairman Anthony R. Coscia said, “The region’s economy relies heavily upon our ability to keep commerce and people moving quickly and efficiently. Among the many things we have delivered to our customers are two new parking garages, AirTrain Newark, three enhanced and expanded terminals, new cargo facilities, roadway improvements that create better access for vehicles, and runway improvements that increase efficiency for aircraft. Thoughtful planning today will lead to great improvements tomorrow at Newark Liberty International Airport, enabling us to be prepared to meet projected passenger growth in the future.”
Port Authority Executive Director Kenneth J. Ringler Jr. said, “This project will complement the $3.8 billion we have already invested in our airport redevelopment program to enhance and improve operations and services at Newark Liberty International Airport. Over the last 10 years, the Port Authority has invested approximately $15 billion at all of our airports in an effort to bring our customers the best in world-class service.”
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16555 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3130 times:
The Port Authority is going to renovate Terminal B in a similar fashion as to what CO did at Terminal C, they are going to turn the lower level former parking garage into the Domestic baggage claim facility.
They will then turn the current Domestic baggage level into the Domestic Departure/ check in level, the top level will be expanded for all international departures/check-in.
They will increase the size of the entrances and security clearance stations at the entrances to each concourses, and will renovate and expand the check-in areas.
Ybacpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1108 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3103 times:
Also, keep in mind with the opening of the immigration facilities in terminal C, very few Continental international flights use the terminal B facilities anymore (none that I know of on a regular basis; a few do use terminal B if they arrive early in the morning), making the terminal appear quite empty during much of the day, when in reality there are just as many, if not a few more, scheduled international flights arriving at the airport.
SkyTeam: The alliance for third rate airlines finally getting their act together!
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 31 Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3095 times:
They only have a few flights that arrive in the morning. For example, NW only had one flight arrive this morning before 11:30, and DL only had two arrive, one of which had probably turned around and departed by 11:30.