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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1886 times:

I just wanted to know the story with this service . . .
I recently flew them from ALB-ISP on Sunday. I know they cut service back on the weekends and I'm guessing this is because the lack of business travelers. The flight from ALB-Montreal(YYZ?) had "zippo". The ramper asked the gate agents and she replied "Zippo". My flight had 2, me and another. There were as many of us as them!
I wanted to know:
1.) If the loads are always this light or is it just during the weekends.
2.) How they operate their fleet of 1900s, The schedule showed that almost all the cities served from ALB depart at around 5pm and come back-do the a/c only have 2 flights a day?
3.) Can these a/c be operated efficiently? The first row is blocked off and the last bench of 3 seats is folded down. Only 9 seats available.
4.) Isn't this a/c kind of dangerous? There was NO cabin door(which gave a great view) and the F/O was the flight attendant too. The engines were so loud that you couldn't hear the announcements either(I didn't mind, I was able to sing to my mp3 player without bothering anybody.
Thanks,
SR


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User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1798 times:

3. One flight I did (CLE-IAD) had one seat blocked out, the other 18 were occupied. A few years ago mind.

4. What are you going to do with a Beech 1900? (no A)? It's not exactly much of a flying bomb. But it is a great view!

Geoff M.


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Next time you fly the Beach 1900 ask the F/O-F/A for a double Stoli's on the rocks with a twist of lime- You won't care as much about the dangerous aircraft and it will probably make you sing better too- kinda like in flight Karaoke.


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Well, first off I'm sure the seats wouldn't be blocked if more people were booked. The B1900 has a capacity for 19. Additionally, it's not in the least a "dangerous" aircraft. The Beech is a rugged and reliable aircraft and just beause it's a turboprop doesn't mean it's any less safe. Commutair flies them all over out of CLE and they're making money and bringing in connections.


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User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

You can also fart real loud and no one notices!

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17361 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

"Well, first off I'm sure the seats wouldn't be blocked if more people were booked."

We had to block off seats all the time out of ITH, especially over Christmas and in the summer when all the students were taking their entire life belongings home.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Provided it doesn't smell too bad.


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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

I don't know why I typed beach instead of Beech . . . Anyway, it was a cool aircraft.
I noted that it may be dangerous because of there being no cabin door. Otherwise, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to fly. I know a US F/A told me they wanted to phase out the Dash-8s because the average weight per passenger was going to go up and the props weren't going to be able to hold as many seats as before. I thought that was maybe happening here.
Also, anybody know about this routes load during the week? - It was very very low on the weekend!!
Steven



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

noted that it may be dangerous because of there being no cabin door.

Just to clarify... you mean no cockpit door, right?



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User currently offlineDC-10inLB From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Those Beeches are a blast to fly on. My freind used to work for Commutair so I flew with him a few times back when he was based in Upstate NY, he's since gone to CLE and hired on w/ another airline. Those seats are only blocked when the plane isn't full. The seat people towards the CG when they're not full, so that means no back row. I was on a few flights that were totally full and the back row was used though.

User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Skyway's 1900s all have cockpit doors on them. They're kind of funky looking due to the shape of the fuselage, so there's an open arc at the top. Kind of like swinging doors on an old-west saloon!


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12217 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1525 times:
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noted that it may be dangerous because of there being no cabin door.

Just to clarify... you mean no cockpit door, right?


I guess that would depend on which direction you look at the (missing) door  Smile



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I was on a B1900 back when they were actually Continental Express (ABE-CLE) and it was a full flight.

With less passengers, perhaps they block and/or fold up seats to assist with weight and balance. Just a thought.


redngold



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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Yes, I ment Cockpit door!
Thanks for the anwsers! It seemed that the pilots were having fun!!!
SR



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