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User currently offlineLongbowPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11504 times:
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What happens when the fasten seat belt sign comes on?

Or Worse

Clear Air Turbulence :/

Chris

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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11461 times:

Usually people sit down and buckle up and the 'plane shakes a bit, just like on all other commercial aircraft.

[Edited 2005-01-18 23:49:47]

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11448 times:

I was thinking about this too. Perhaps the aircraft becomes inversed? Or the wings fall off? Plastic wings and wing fairings, heaven forbid! I'd imagine everyone on board would die? Suffocate? Everything immediately falls out of the overhead lockers, apparently, as soon as you hit clear air turbulence. Seriously, what are you getting at? What difference is there going to be to ANY other airliner? What are you expecting?

User currently offlineLongbowPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11425 times:
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Let me clarify, they are in teh Gym, Bar, Casino. Hmmm got to think about that one. You think a guy with chips on the Roulette wheel will be happy when his chips fly?

Chris


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11380 times:

Let me clarify, they are in teh Gym, Bar, Casino. Hmmm got to think about that one. You think a guy with chips on the Roulette wheel will be happy when his chips fly?

Chris


I bet you he'll be even more disappointed when he finds out that the airline he's taking has packed the entire aircraft full of seats.


User currently offlineMtnmanmakalu From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11363 times:

Let me clarify, they are in the Gym, Bar, Casino. Hmmm got to think about that one. You think a guy with chips on the Roulette wheel will be happy when his chips fly?

Does anybody really think that any Airline other than Virgin Atlantic will put a casino and bar, gym, or lounge on this beast??? I highly doubt it!!! Most Airlines will be looking for the most PAX=revenue from flying this thing...

mtnman Big grin



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User currently offlineLongbowPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11333 times:
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If it is filled with 500 people only, aren't you just basically loading a 747?

Chris


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11311 times:

What happens when turbulence strikes while your on the treadmill in Virgin's gym?

User currently offlineLongbowPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11291 times:
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Exactly what i was trying to say Orion!  Smile

User currently offlineMtnmanmakalu From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11280 times:

What happens when turbulence strikes while your on the treadmill in Virgin's gym?

You get another gin and tonic (that you spilled) and go for a few more miles!!!!



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11267 times:
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Does anybody really think that any Airline other than Virgin Atlantic will put a casino and bar, gym, or lounge on this beast??? I highly doubt it!!!


Right, but LongbowPilot's question is still valid.


2H4



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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11261 times:

I think the crew automatically ejects leaving the pax to their own devices. That's what I heard anyway.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11258 times:

If it is filled with 500 people only, aren't you just basically loading a 747?

Not even close. Very few 747s are loaded with anything more than 450 passengers, and most carry far far less than that.

N


User currently offlineBALandorLivery From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11253 times:

EGGD:

Let me give you an insight.

The wings on an aircraft are meant to flex, they take the stress loading (i believe is the correct term) of the aircraft.

If wings were inflexible the stress on them would extremely high and result in cracks and failure. Therefore wings are designed specifically to flex, be it metal or plastic.

So during turbulence the wings will not fall off or break apart.

Maybe an engineer elaborate.


User currently offlineWAH64D From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 966 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11244 times:

Longbowpilot said:

If it is filled with 500 people only, aren't you just basically loading a 747?


What sort of 747s do you fly on? The A380 will carry 500 in a "comfortable" long haul configuration, not the sardine can configuration of the 744D.

By the way........ nice member ID!



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 854 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11197 times:


A 747 w 500 pax. = a tincan of sardins  Big grin The 380 got 50% more space.....

Micke / SE



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11148 times:

A 747 w 500 pax. = a tincan of sardins The 380 got 50% more space.....

..........which simply means the 380 is a 50% larger can of sardines  Big grin.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineBALandorLivery From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11121 times:

Ye but the A380 is pig ugly! The 747 just looks good in my opinion.

The A380 is a remarkable aircraft but I think the nose should be redisigned.

I am an airbus fan and hope the A380 does well, but I am sure that there are other airbus enthusiasts that will agree with me about the nose of the A380.

Even though its a superb aircraft, I don't think it will have the legacy of the 747.

NOT TRYING TO START AN A vs B WAR so no digs please.


User currently offlineLongbowPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11103 times:
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OK, back to the TOPIC at hand. What about turbulence? If you are working up a sweat in the gym or losing your shirt at Black Jack. What happens when the fasten your seat belt light comes on?

Chris


User currently offlineVelasco From Portugal, joined Jan 2005, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11090 times:

Look, if you are at the gym you just hold on to the exercise machines. As for the casino I'm not sure but they may have some sort of retractable seats as they use for the crew. Just my guess. By the way, wouldn't it be medically risky to exercise aboard an airplane?


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User currently offlineBALandorLivery From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11087 times:

You go back to your seat and fasten your seatbelt.

Thats precisely why the ideas are inpractical and JAA approval will be difficult.


User currently offlineBraniff From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11080 times:

I wonder if Karen Black would know how to fly it in case of emergency?

-B



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7961 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 11000 times:

BALandorLivery: EGGD:

Let me give you an insight.

The wings on an aircraft are meant to flex, they take the stress loading (i believe is the correct term) of the aircraft.


He, you are British and therefore supposed to have some sense of humour. Work on it.

If you are working up a sweat in the gym or losing your shirt at Black Jack. What happens when the fasten your seat belt light comes on?

Even worse: What happens if you are in the bathroom and the seat belt lights comes on?
I mean, you can leave a bar from one second to another but not the toilet.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10963 times:
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LongbowPilot, I can see two possibilities in reference to your question. One possibility is to install some of those fold-down seats that flight attendants use. People working out could sit down right in the gym and strap in while waiting for the turbulence to subside. They're light, take up little space, and as there would be relatively few people using the gym facilities to begin with, not many of these seats would have to be installed. The second possibility would be to require gym users to return to their seats whenever turbulence is an issue.

In either case, I doubt the gyms, casinos, etc will last very long. These are all things that were proposed when the 747 was launched, and they never saw the light of day.



By the way, wouldn't it be medically risky to exercise aboard an airplane?

Turbulence aside, why would it be?


2H4



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User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 10945 times:

Could you imagine lifting weights and suddenly you hit an air pocket?
OUCH!!!



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25 Orion737 : Or in the shower haha, I saw a shower being demonstrated as a possible A380 feature on a BBC 10pm news tonight. I can just picture getting in a lather
26 Velasco : NoUFO: I mean, you can leave a bar from one second to another but not the toilet. I don't think you are being entirely correct. People spend more time
27 Post contains images 2H4 : Could you imagine lifting weights and suddenly you hit an air pocket? Hopefully they'd be smart and use these: The weight savings alone would make the
28 BALandorLivery : NoUFO: Take it easy, I was just giving the chap some information. you want sense of humour? A sandwitch walks into a pub, before it could speak the la
29 Post contains images NoUFO : The "chap" really didn't need the information provided. He was merely sarcastic. Thanks for the joke, though.
30 BALandorLivery : It's ok, just making my contribution.
31 Dragon-wings : You can still get hurt using the bowflex if you hit turbulence. You could be in the middle of a lift hit turbulence causing you to let go awkwardly or
32 Post contains images Aerofan : I think the chips would have to be of the magnetic kind. Now if u are in the gym. well that's another matter all together. I would assume that the sea
33 Sidishus : This is a very good question. It's notable that the only actual fatalities (at least in recent years) attributed to turbulence have occurred aboard 74
34 Post contains images HAWK21M : In the End......There would be Spacious Seats everywhere regds MEL
35 Bjg231 : Personally, I'd rather have them pass on the gym idea. Unless they're putting showers in the plane, I don't want to have to sit next to someone smelli
36 Post contains images Skydrol : Another way to look at this: How was turbulence handled aboard 747-100s fitted with the upper deck lounge and L-1011s with the lower deck lounge in th
37 GuitrThree : Ok, I have to say it since no one else did...... forget the casino or even the gym, what if you were "working out" on one of those "two person beds" a
38 Sidishus : How was turbulence handled aboard 747-100s fitted with the upper deck lounge and L-1011s with the lower deck lounge in the 1970s? Good Question. Maybe
39 Flybyguy : As 2H4 suggested these fanciful ideas for the extra room on the A380 were much like the 747-100 when it came out with its upper deck lounges and alumi
40 Sidishus : I remember seeing a picture of an early with bench seats along the fuselage equipped with seat belts, but can find any on the net. The A380's initial
41 Post contains images Boo25 : Virgin can't afford to pay its staff a decent salary - i cannot see them losing revenue by not filling the 380 up with seats - usual RB hot air and PR
42 Post contains images Lhrstu : Virgin already have a stand up bar on their A346 don`t they so have they run into problems with turbulance on them? I think the casino is going to be
43 Aaron747 : Silly kids - there's no such thing as an 'air pocket'.
44 Post contains links Jacobin777 : whoever things we'll have bowling alleys, gyms, tennis courts, cricket fields, track fields, olympic-sized swimming pools, hot tubs and saunas are del
45 F9Animal : Let me clarify, they are in teh Gym, Bar, Casino. Hmmm got to think about that one. You think a guy with chips on the Roulette wheel will be happy whe
46 Kdeg00 : And I was hoping the thread would be talking about wake turbulence. Silly me. Maybe the real question should be what happens to the VS massage client
47 Post contains images Macc : probably branson found th ebest way to make money: all chips in the casino go to the bank, whenever the plane hits turbulence. the pilots will be advi
48 Jfrworld : "OK, back to the TOPIC at hand. What about turbulence? If you are working up a sweat in the gym or losing your shirt at Black Jack. What happens when
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