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My Flight Was Cancelled Today Due To Strike!  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19202 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7713 times:

I was due to fly STN-REU on FR at 0625 this morning, but my flight was cancelled because of the French ATC strike.

What happened was this: we boarded a few minutes after usual - nothing seemed wrong - and then took our seats. There was the usual early-morning rush of flights, so we did not push back on-time. The captain told us that, due to the French ATC strike, we wouldn't be able to obtain a workable slot until between 0800 and 0900. 10 or so minutes thereafter, he came back on and said that the flight was cancelled. I was shocked. He seemed too, as he did moan quite a bit about how they seem to strike whenever they want to which then disrupts everyone's plans.

I must say that I was impressed with FR's professionalism: it told everyone clearly what to do and where to go. It clearly stated that those who still wish to travel can be transferred onto the Gerona flight - and have priority - and either have a free bus to Barcelona or Reus. Alternatively, you could apply for a refund (which is what I did).

The most annoying thing about this is what I was not able to then fly REU-HHN-STN as planned and I cannot obtain refunds for those unused legs. Still, those two only came to about £20-25.

I decided to catch a coach to LHR - a one-way ticket cost an absurd £20 - and spend 8 or 9 hours there. Just about to have lunch before going to watch 'em again.

I will meet my girlfriend at STN tonight for our 0730 flight to VLC tomorrow morning. My God I will curse more than today if that flight is seriously delayed or cancelled due to the ****ing French deciding to strike!


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7676 times:

Another French ATC strike  Wow!  Wow!



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19202 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7672 times:

Yep. We were apparently to fly over Paris, over mid-France, down near Perpignan and thence into Spain.

Bloody French. :-P

It seemed that quite a number of other flights, either going to or over France, was delayed - some quite badly. I am glad mine was cancelled, as if it was seriously delayed I would have missed my connection to HHN and so been well and truly ****ed, so to speak.

[Edited 2005-01-20 12:52:59]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7481 times:

They could have re-filed the flight plan to avoid French airspace, but I guess that would be helping the passengers out too much !!.

 Smile



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7241 times:
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I must say that I was impressed with FR's professionalism

What utter crap!

Ryanair have cancelled a flight as opposed to take a delay of a couple of hours - I fail to see how it is good customer service, or reflects a professional attitude on the part of the airline.

Disruption to schedules is a fact of life of airline operations, whether due to technical, ATC, weather or passenger problems. How the airline deals with this is a measure of their professionalism; the aim being to get people to their destinations safely and as punctually as possible.

The fact that French ATC were causing delays today is not sufficient justification to cancel flights in my opinion, the delays were a long way from being severe enough to cancel flights. I've seen them much worse...

Ryanair have obviosly decided to protect their on-time performance stats, and to hell with any plans their customers may have about going on holiday, to a business meeting or trying to get home.

So while some easyJet or British Airways passengers may have suffered delays of 2 hours today in attempting reaching their destinations, many Ryanair passengers are still trying to reach their destinations...

Whatever you say about paying cheap fares and not expecting too much in the way of service, this is certainly one step too far.

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7160 times:

Just FYI - all BA flights LHR-NCE arrived today, none were cancelled, although there was a 40 minute delay on the BA342. The BA343 was also just over an hour late back to LHR.

So you see it can be done, if you don't mind waiting a bit.

P.S. I don't have much sympathy for ATC who go on strike, don't get me wrong !


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4121 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7042 times:

What i find strange is that you planned to fly STN-REU-HHN-STN today and then tomorrow fly STN-VLC. Do you ever fly any other airlines?

-Stephen


User currently offlineAirportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3608 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7016 times:

I might have to agree with Crosswind.

Here in the States, JetBlue rearely cancels flights unless it has to, and that is something they are known well for. They would rather take the delay and eventually try to salvage some of the passengers flights than just no-op the flight.

Id prefer that. Thats just me, of course.

Bruno
BOS



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User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6894 times:

The french ATC strike is advertized only on english version of FR site!!
The other strange thing is : flights from Dublin to luton are cancelled because of the french ATC strike.How is it possible?



Flying is amazing!
User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6787 times:

I totally agree with Leezyjet they could have avoided French airspace, but that might have cost a few extra Euros so better screw the paps.
Another good reason not to fly with them, unless getting where you're going isn't really that important.



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User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6417 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

Icarus75: flights from Dublin to luton are cancelled because of the french ATC strike.How is it possible?

Plane shortage. Planes stuck on French soil.

Dear Pe@rson, France is by far the most strike prone country in Europe, and it has always been so. Try the very best you can to avoid that country.

In the 80'es and early 90'es I had a lot of business in France. There was practically always a strike going on. If it wasn't ATC, then flight crews, cabin crews, trains, busses, security or tech people. Somehow I have totally avoided any French airline for 12 years now, and I have managed to stay out of French air space for the last four and a half years.

Frenchmen are some of the nicest people on earth, but planning to use their country... It's always a good idea to plan to go around it one way or another.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6709 times:
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Plane shortage. Planes stuck on French soil

Prebennorholm,
No planes stuck on French soil today, I'm afraid...

The strike mainly affected the Brest ACC, so the majority of flights to/from France will not pass through the Brest ACC or can easily be re-routed to avoid this area, although delays affected much French traffic as other ACCs became overloaded.

Spanish/Portugeese flights that generally cross the Bay of Biscay, are more difficult to re-route to avoid Brest, but dealys were generally under 2 hours in any case...

There weren't the long delays that we have seen in the past when there has been a proper French ATC strike, and French airspace has been closed. It's around 3hr40min flying time London-Malaga avoiding French airspace - I've seen it done!

You can also add the Italians, Spanish and Greek to the list of countries that like to strike a few times a year. The Greek ATC had a particularly bad year in 2003 with protests relating to the increase in traffic due to the Olympic Games in Athens.

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6249 times:

PREBENNORHOLM

In your list you forgot to mention the post offices!!!!!!!!!
Don't you think that Italians are better for the strikes than Frenchies?

Thanks for the nice comments about French !!!!!!!!



User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6235 times:
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How many times per year do these people go on strike?

It seems to be that they do this alot/



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User currently offlinePapaNovember From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5556 times:



Just out of curiosity, what reason were they striking for this time?


Phil...


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

The most annoying thing about this is what I was not able to then fly REU-HHN-STN as planned and I cannot obtain refunds for those unused legs. Still, those two only came to about £20-25.

You can claim the tax and surcharged back. If you write nicely and point out the reasons, they might even let you off without paying the ridiculous 'processing charge' for giving you your own money back.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5523 times:

Those French need a Reagan to come in and fire them all. That would teach them not to strike so often.  Big thumbs up

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3619 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Exactly what I was thinking, Newark777.

User currently offlineLonghaulheavy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 402 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5430 times:

Those French need a Reagan to come in and fire them all. That would teach them not to strike so often.

Ha! Fantastic. Big grin


User currently offlineVS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4922 times:

I think the national characteristic of the French to strike (or rebel) is quite phenomenal and praiseworthy - without it there would have never been the French revolution(s) that changed the politicl order of the world. By the way, I am planning a trip to Paris in 2 months. The French ATC better not be striking then  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

VS11


User currently offlineGLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

As a French man, I am allowed to answer papanovember: the French do not need a reason to strike... Legally, I am kidding but in fact, I am not!

As for your comment, Prebennorholm, I agree with you but the situation at AF has improved a lot since all the employees were offered shares of their company. Since then, they have made the math, concluded that if they strike, they can forget their yearly dividends and striking at AF has decreased drastically. Unfortunately, we cannot do the same with the ATC, nor with the trains, post offices etc.

France has its own way of seeing the world...  Big grin


User currently offlineMrNiji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

The most interesting in your original post fopr me is that you have a new gf  Big thumbs up

The most annoying thing about this is what I was not able to then fly REU-HHN-STN as planned and I cannot obtain refunds for those unused legs

Ha! Had you booked a more professional airline, you would have been able to claim back...  Nuts

I decided to catch a coach to LHR - a one-way ticket cost an absurd £20

What do you expect, being in STN, the a-- of the world...  Nuts



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