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User currently offlineReady4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

I was watching Airline (the UK version) last night and most of it was dealing with a group of party-goers. They all got drunk in the airport before they boarded. Like, really drunk!

They were already causing a scene in the airport so you can imagine what they were like on board. The cabin crew began by....... serving them MORE drinks...???

I realise easyJet make money on this sort of thing, but putting other passengers comfort aside (I would be seriously p!ssed off if I had been on that flight) what about safety? Surely drunk passengers (whether they're rowdy or not) wouldn't be able to, say, evacuate the cabin if something went wrong, or handle a life jacket if they can't even walk (some of them get THAT drunk).

I wondered what your views on this were? Is this legal, should we have some sort of breathalyser test if the airport authorities think a passenger is too drunk to handle themselves effectively in an emergency situation? Should we allow serving alcohol to passenger on board and loose the bars in the airports, or not allow any serving of alcohol to passengers ever?

Gary


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User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Should we allow serving alcohol to passenger on board

I think that banning the right to serve alcohol onboard an A/C would have big economical impact on the airline doing so, they would loose me as a customer for one and i believe many many others. Best way to handle it i believe is to simply just observe the passengers behavior prior to boarding, if he/she is loud and noticeably having a hard time controling him/herself then that person shouldnt be allowed to board the A/C. Same should go for serving alcohol inflight, give them as much as they want as long as they can handle themselves without disturbing the other passengers.


User currently offlineReady4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

...but this is the way they work now, and it doesn't work.

Many people I have spoken to say they should ban alcohol onboard, but I agree, there would be a real loss of revenue I guess for the LCCs.



User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

there would be a real loss of revenue I guess for the LCCs.


Not only revenue for the LCC's but also customers going from the airline that today serves free alcohol onboard and stops it to an airline that does serve it.



User currently offlineBCal From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

That what happens when you fly LCC!

Only joking, of course, but I think the drunks were probably putting on an act for the cameras. Any experienced cabin crew would not serve alcohol to someone who appeared to be under the influence, and possibly the drunks would not even get pass the boarding gate. If it was not an act for the cameras, then easyJet's cabin crew clearly come across as amateurs.




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User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3139 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

It's not just on LCC's, I like to get drunk on all airlines, especially longhaul in business class when they can't ignore you and they serve a better class of booze.

Hey sorry about puking on your laptop if you're reading this!

MH



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User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2730 times:

If any of you have ever seen the USA version of 'Airline' or saw the many threads on it here (the show is done with co-operation with the producers of the original UK version), the issue of alcohol intoxicated passangers is discussed in almost every episode. They have shown Southwest, the leading LCC in the USA and probably in the world, having a low tolarance for drunken/intoxicated passangers. I believe in one episode they showed a group of women whom were denied borading and bumped to a later flight due their intoxicated condition. In the USA, airlines have policies and training of f/a's about not serving intoxicated passangers. Also, as far as I know, f/a's are not on any incentive plan to encourage the selling of alcoholic drinks which may be a problem for Easy Jet.

User currently offlineReady4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2700 times:

I have seen one or two episodes of the American version, yes - very good.

I can imagine at easyJet that the cabin crew would be under some sort of pressure to sell as many drinks as possible, i just think that for safety, I find it difficult to imagine that the authorities would allow this. Especially when you consider that you had a large group of drunk passengers - that's equates to a large group of able-bodies passengers who are supposed to be able to handle themselves in an emergency situation (on paper) suddenly incapacitated, and the few cabin crew that are on the flight have to risk their own lives trying to get these people off an airplane that is being evacuated.

I don't think it should be left up to the airlines to decide who is too drunk. Well anyway, this is the sort of thing where people have to loose lives before something is done about it.


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4537 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2685 times:

My wife flew America West from Phoenix to Indianapolis about 5 years ago. The flight got seriously delayed after people already boarded. I mean like 4 or 5 hours. So what do they do? Serve free drinks. Great. Get a bunch of upset people drunk. Smart move.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

I once boarded a TWA flight, found somebody in my assigned seat, and the f/a showed me to an empty window seat in the exit row and the middle seat was empty too. Lucky me! No, I wasn't so lucky. The guy in the aisle seat was drunk. A loud, talkative, obnoxious drunk, and very obvious about it. He was talking nonsense to the f/a's every time they walked down the aisle. He was talking to the passengers around him. He was playing with the telephone. At one point he grabbed a newspaper from somebody across the aisle and gave it to me. The flight was only 45 min, so no big deal.

But then they provided beverage service and the guy bought two drinks. That was more than I could take. This was the exit row, remember, the guy is drunk, everybody can see he's drunk, and they're serving him drinks. I was furious and there was nothing I could do about it during the flight. As I was getting off, I stopped and told the captain how the f/a's committed a safety violation by serving alcohol to a drunk sitting in the exit row. The captain just stood there and looked at me with a blank expression and told me to fill out a complaint card. Of course, I didn't expect him to react in front of other passengers, but I expected something would happen later. As I was waiting at the baggage carousel, one of the f/a's came running up to me to complain loudly about my complaint to the captain! She said I was wrong. The guy was just being very friendly. They had no reason to think he was drunk. We had a big argument about it.

So that's why I applaud when I watch "Airline" and they kick the drunks off.

[Edited 2005-01-21 23:21:53]

User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

I was on duty at the airport for this this arrival. I (along with Customs, Immigrations and the Police Department) escorted this guy off the plane.

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2002/08/19/story359098596.asp



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

drink is cool. we love drink here in the UK, especially in NCL-number one party city in the UK (in my oppinion) and number 8 party city in the world!!!! (from seom official report thingy). Drink is a great way to make money of people, and most flightin the UK are so short that if a passenger is a bit OTT, it will betime to land beefore they really cause a cufuffle.

User currently offlineReady4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Sevenair: hello to a fellow geordie. I agree, NCL is the best place to party - I miss it - LOTS!

User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

I was actually on board a flight from AMS to AUA on KL where two pax started to fight. It was a B744 and we were about an hour in-flight when all hell broke loose.

The captain came out of the cockpit to help restrain the pax and made a 180 turn straight back to AMS. Both pax were arrested upon arrival in AMS.

I must say however that although it has been happening a lot less lately, before it was happening quite often on the route AMS-AUA, AMS-SXM and AMS-CUR. It got so bad that they had security personnel in uniform traveling on the flights patrolling the flights.

GlobeTrekker



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User currently offlineEilennaei From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Occasionally, there can be more than a couple of people with an ethanol overdose onboard...

http://www.sptimesrussia.com/archive/times/749/news/n_5860.htm


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