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NW A320 Overweight?!  
User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Today, during my first flight lesson. A NW A320, landed on RWY 5 at PVD. This wouldnt seem odd, except RWY 34, was the active. And I heard the NW flight request to land on 5, becuase of weight reasons. (can't remember the exact words). Any reason why?! Even the DL 762 (pats charter) landed on 34.

-Tony@PVD


Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

The Delta 762 as you said was a 764.

Its done a lot, especially with DC-9's



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4403 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4661 times:
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Maybe the A320 needed the extra runway length if it was full. Just a guess.


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User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4591 times:

Also depending on where it was coming from..if it was MSP- there would have been extra fuel because of the weather.


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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

May have needed extra length for a deferred item such as spoilers, anti-skid, etc


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4424 times:

Also depending on where it was coming from..if it was MSP- there would have been extra fuel because of the weather.

Especially with prices at over $3.05 a gallon there.

As for the charter DL, you make money regardless with a charter.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 4381 times:

I wouldn't have mattered as to how much fuel was on it -- they can't land above the max landing weight for that situation.


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User currently offlineGift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

My mistake of the 764. Never really got to know the 767 series very well.

So you say the -9s request a longer runway as well? is it just a NW thing then? (seeing as no other airline has used a -9 into PVD for years!) And why is it? bad performance on the a/c, and the pilots prefer to have more safe room? I just think its odd, becuase the 767 is a much larger and heavier a/c then an a320.

-Tony@PVD



Top 3 airports: PVD 26.0%(115 flights), PHL 15.6%(69 flights), PHX 12.0%(53 flights)
User currently offlineVeeref From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Most times when you see this kind of thing it's not necessarily the runway length itself but obstacles off the runway end. max landing weights are dictated not only by runway lengths, but by obstacle clearance criteria off the end should a worst case single engine go around scenario occur.
For example:

Runway 9/27 at XYZ is 10,000ft. long. Runway 9 arrivals are permitted at max allowable landing weight due to flat land and ocean off the departure end.
Runway 27 however has hills a couple of miles off the end. While the aircraft could still land and stop on the runway at max gross weight, it could not maintain adequate obstacle celarance in the event of a single engine missed approach.
There are other factors such as wind, runway gradient and braking energy limits...etc.


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