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User currently offlineDullesguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 247 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Hello all,
Does anyone have details about when the projected date is for the A380 to make its first appearance to ORD? Are any of you all gonna try to get a picture of it when it comes? I know ORD is hard to get pics around the permiter, but getting up there for this is a must!!


Stephen


"..the joy of the Lord is your strength" Nehemiah 8:10
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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Who would bring the A380 to ORD? LH would have fewer seats in the ORD-FRA market if they went to 1 A380 from a 744 and a 343, and UA (the only other likely candidate) won't be buying any for a while, if at all.


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User currently offlineLEO777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

I think EK will be the first airline to bring the A380 to ORD, but dont expect to see it at ORD until about 2008, maybe a little sooner if ORD gets an A380 diversion from JFK.


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User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

I don't think the A380 will ever be in ORL.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
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I don't think the A380 will ever be in ORL.

I agree, I don't expect the A380 to be at Orlando Exectutive Airport.  Big grin


User currently offlineDullesguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

LEO777, thanks for the info, i knew it was far away just wondering a rough estimate. The A380 will show up to ORD at sometime, its one of the few airports that will be able to handle it as of now...


"..the joy of the Lord is your strength" Nehemiah 8:10
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

"Who would bring the A380 to ORD? LH would have fewer seats in the ORD-FRA market if they went to 1 A380 from a 744 and a 343, and UA (the only other likely candidate) won't be buying any for a while, if at all."

Huh? LH does not operate a A343 from FRA? Its a daily 744. The A343 is from MUC. High summer season is 2x daily 744 from FRA.

It may be possible that FedEx might operate at least 1 flight via ORD with the A380F, but thats a maybe.


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3216 times:

My prediction is LH in 2009 & EK in 2010. If a fourth runway is built at FRA, then crossout LH.

I would have thought a tranatlantic divert from JFK will go to east coast cities such as BDL, BOS, or now PIT since there's a huge terminal/tarmac lying largely empty.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

Isn't 430/431 a 744 and 432/433 an A343 in the summer? 434/435 (the MUC flights) are an A343 year round. All 3 flights are A343s in the winter.


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User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 3060 times:

According to an article in today's Chicago Tribune, officials at ORD's Aviation Dept. are looking at short-term modifications for the A380 before the long-term ORD runway modernization program is finished. These include expanding taxiway entrances and exists to allow the A380 to turn without running off the taxiway.

If the recent rare and somewhat chaotic visit of an IB A346 last fall is any indication, ORD currently has very limited access for the A380.

A spokesman for the Aviation Dept. also said "We anticipate we would receive one A380 a day at O'Hare." My guess would be they're talking about FedEx. LH from FRA would be a long shot. EK would be an even longer shot. AF - no way. UPS - perhaps. ORD is a great international gateway, but I don't see it ever being a big A380 destination. (Hopefully I will be proven wrong!)

As for the LH flights to ORD, LH 430/431 from FRA is a 744 most of the year, but an A343 during the winter, as it was yesterday and is today, although that is always subject to change. LH 432/433 from FRA is an A343, and I don't recall it ever being a 744. LH 434/435 from MUC is an A343. (I remember in the recent past an LH A333 coming in, but I don't recall which flight it was.) Then there's LH 436/437's A319LR from DUS (PrivatAir.) And the many LH Cargo flights, MD-11's and 742's.



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User currently offlineConcordeLoss From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

I would have thought a tranatlantic divert from JFK will go to east coast cities such as BDL, BOS, or now PIT since there's a huge terminal/tarmac lying largely empty.

Two things wrong with this statement:

I don't see BDL being able to handle an A380 anytime soon.(and by soon I mean the next 10 years or even more.) Can it even handle a 767?

Huge terminal/tarmac lying largely empty at BOS?
I don't know about the BOS that you've been to, but the BOS I know can hardly leave its tarmac empty.




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User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Concordeless.......... PERHAPS PITTSBURG is largely empty

User currently offlineConcordeLoss From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 22 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Wdleiser,

I don't know much about PIT, so you might be right.



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User currently offlineHannigan From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

PERHAPS PITTSBURG is largely empty

It will be for sure soon...  Smile



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

What is the length difference between an A346 and an A388? I was under the impression that the A380 was actually about 3 meters shorter.

[Edited 2005-01-25 02:27:15]


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

The A380 is about 2.5 meters shorter than the A340-600.

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User currently offlineBENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 2551 times:


I was under the impression that ORD had a shortage of slots.

If so, any airline could fly more passengers to Chicago for the same number of slots.



User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Cubsrule,

I think the reason for needed taxiway widening is not in the length of the A380, its the needed turning radius. The A380 may be shorter than another aircraft, but may need more room to manuver due to wheel-base dimensions. Airbus has a great collection of technical drawings for its aircraft and their associcated airport operations. Here's the link to the A380 info:

http://www.content.airbusworld.com/SITES/Technical_Data/docs/AC/DATA_CONSULT/AC_A380.pdf



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

I am not one that is too excited about the A380, mainly because of its size and the length of time it would take to board 550 passengers (if flight was full of course), and then waiting for all of the baggage to be offloaded for the baggage claim....BUT, i would take one flight on it just to say i did it.


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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

A few days back they were talking about modifications for the A380 on WBBM 780 (Chicago News Radio). They mentioned that the first A380 is expected in late 2007, but I'm not sure who would be flying it here. LH & AF are the only current carrier with service to ORD who has ordered them, but a newcomer could fly them here.

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

What is the length difference between an A346 and an A388? I was under the impression that the A380 was actually about 3 meters shorter.

Keep in mind that the A380 has a 262 foot wingspan (making it a FAA Group VI design aircraft); in contrast, the A346 has a 208 foot wingspan (which is a Group V design category).





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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

The 744's wingspan is approximately 211 feet, so the problem with the A346 is clearly length.


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User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

To the submitter who asked about BDL--- I'm not certain it could hold an A380, but I'm definitely sure it can handle up to an L-1011. When I worked for Tradewinds ours has regularly scheduled flights into BDL.

User currently offlineB777fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

As an ORD spotter, I would love to regularly see an A380 here, but I'm not expecting it to happen much.

The change in the last few years to smaller regional aircraft - despite the slot restrictions - has me waiting a lot longer for the heavies already.

There is also very little progress being made to upgrade the airport to support the A346 let alone the A380. While I do expect that they will complete some short term fixes that will serve until the major expansion, I expect that parts of the airfield will be off limits to the A380.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

ORD is not slot restricted. All reductions by UA and AA in order to reduce delays last summer were ostensibly voluntary.


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25 Iowa744fan : I don't see BDL being able to handle an A380 anytime soon.(and by soon I mean the next 10 years or even more.) Can it even handle a 767? Delta used to
26 DfwRevolution : I was under the impression that ORD had a shortage of slots. If so, any airline could fly more passengers to Chicago for the same number of slots. Kee
27 Uswyjer : DL still flies 767s into BDL from ATL and CVG, also AA brings an A300 from SJU. We also get regular AN124 and 747 cargo, the occasional C5 from Westov
28 Post contains links Airfinair : Iowa744fan wrote: "Also, what is the story of the Iberia 346 at O'Hare? Anyone know what runways and taxiways it used and where the problems emerged?"
29 Cubsrule : To add a little to Finair: The 346 parked at M11 and departed from M11 rather than it's usual departure from a gate on the north side of Concourse L (
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