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User currently offlineJumboJet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

Just heard JFK ATC say that an aircraft is blocking 4R and will be out of service until Monday. Is this a new incident? Yesterday 4L was out of service due to an incident. Anyone have any news on this?

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

I beleive they are the same incident, and that 04L was mistakenly reported as the runway being involved.

I read elsewhere where the 747 on 04R is in the new arrestor barrier section they installed to keep aircraft from going off the end and into the water. That pavement in this section pretty much breaks up under the aircraft's own weight, so extracating it is more involved than just towing it off, not to mention there being a foot of snow on the ground. Monday might be Tuesday...

Here's what the arrestor bed looks like, and how it saved a Saab 340 from the water back 1999. You can see than even wheels of a lightweight Saab are not -on- the pavement, but -in- it, so you can imagine what a heavyweight 747 must look like in it.

A MD11 did use it in 2003, but he didn't go very far into it, and only the nosewheel was buried.

http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_Issues/RiskManagement/softgroundarrest.html

http://www.tc.faa.gov/intercom/may99.PDF

Here's some of the airports around the USA that have such installations:
http://www.esco-usa.com/com/instal.html







[Edited 2005-01-23 14:55:27]

User currently offlineFlybywire777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

Sounds like they just cleared one for a landing on 4L. Can't figure out who, not many in the air at this time.

User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

4L is open and active, just saw a few land: B6 A320, Olympic A340, Saudia 777 and a IB A340 attempted but had to go around....

4R is closed, Polar 747 still at the end in the arrestor bed/snow. Just uploaded a pic, hopefully it'll be accepted soon.

Mike


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Just heard one cleared to 31R, with a windshear warning.

Harry



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Mikephotos,

Post that pic here! I want to see it.

Wonder how long before they can get that 747 moved.


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1608 times:

Here ya go....


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Michael F. McLaughlin



Mike


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1558 times:

Great pic Mike!  Big thumbs up

You deserve credit for going out and getting that pic. What bad weather your having there!

Thanks!

Nik


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 1510 times:

Thanks Nik, yeah it was worth it. But I don't get all the credit. First I had to have the wife and kids shovel out the truck  Smile



And credit to the 4x4 for dealing with roads that are still covered with snow. I guess I do get a little credit for standing on top of the truck to take the pic......  Big grin



Here's a close-up shot for you:



Mike


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8309 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Another aircraft went off the end today, and no it wasn't Polar, it was a new incident. I do not know the type however. Anyone have any more info?


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User currently offlineNotbluejet From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

from what i heard it was fedex, dont know any more info right now. ill try to find out

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