Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Boeing 767 Line - Why Still Open?  
User currently offlineRwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9344 times:

Now the 757 line has closed, will the 767 line close soon as well? Surely there are not too many airlines that will buy new 767's now rather than wait until the 7E7 or A350 is released...especially as there are so many used 767's available out there as a stop gap?

52 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1916 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

I think the line is awaiting the USAF order for the KC-767... If this deal goes to the KC-330, I think the line will close.

Hope this helps!

Cheers!



Only Those Who Sleep Don't Make Mistakes
User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2093 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9188 times:

Sorry to say that military contracts will only keep this line open.

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9159 times:

The line can't close. The KC-767 isn't the only military aircraft out there based upon it.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8930 times:

Rwylie77

Passenger 767's are still coming off the line, though, very little. There are non US 767 tankers that are on the order, and of course, the potential US Air Force 767 tanker program.



NO URLS in signature
User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7446 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8896 times:

I was wondering about the -200 series . I know Boeing reopened it for CO,but have any more been produced after CO's run ? I doubt it.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8848 times:

The 200's are/were built on the same line as all other 767's. There is only one 767 line. The 767's are built at Everett and the 757's were built at Renton.

Didn't Boeing get a recent order from JAL for a few 767-300's (as I recall?)


User currently offlineDayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8772 times:

They are waiting on the tanker program green light or red light before they close the line for good. We should kno within a few months.

According to Boeing's website, there are still a few 767 to be built yet.



One Nation Under God
User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2488 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8701 times:


Didn't Boeing get a recent order from JAL for a few 767-300's (as I recall?)

yup 7 300ER's with delivery from 2006 , but i think they cancelled it when they orderd the 7E7, not sure though.


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8661 times:

The only reason I can see the 767 line remaining open is for military purposes. It probably will close down by 2009 is my guess, as most airlines have quit ordering it. The 7E7 is going to kill the 767 orders anyway.


Fly one thing; Fly it well
User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8550 times:

I would say that the A330 has already done that.

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8535 times:

The E-3 kept the 707 line open for ages past the last civil delivery. The E-10 will do the same here. Even if it's not a 1:1 replacement for the E-3/E-8/EC-135, it may still account for >50 orders.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2419 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8498 times:

"If this deal goes to the KC-330..."

You funny guy, Joe...

USAF and the A330..... that would never happen.



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8288 times:

I wouldn't hold my breath on any of this. The 767 has 25 frames to deliver.

When they're gone, if there's no military tanker order, the line will close.

N


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1916 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8164 times:

You funny guy, Joe...

I am, don't I? Big grin

Never say never is the motto!

(However, I don't think it's likely)

Cheers!



Only Those Who Sleep Don't Make Mistakes
User currently offlineAdrianw From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7584 times:

KC-330?? 3rd that. I would like the 767 line to stay open. They are good planes.

User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7492 times:

I know of at least two airlines that are considering at least 11 new 767-300ER 412K MTOW variants with PW power (4062). I would expect an announcement within 90 days


User currently offlineDeltaamtrak058 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

the 762 ER is still on the assembly line at boeing...but so far no new orders...


The engine is the heart of an aeroplane, but the pilot is its soul. -Sir Walter Raleigh
User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

the 762 ER is still on the assembly line at boeing...but so far no new orders...

The 762ER doesnt have its own line, all of the 767 series are produced on one line, just like the 737NG series and 757(was).

-Dan



A guy asks 'What's Punk?'. I kick over a trash can and its punk. He knocks over a trash can and its trendy.
User currently offlineDimsum From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 91 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6758 times:

I was down in Everett for a tour in early september and there was a freshly painted JL 763 sitting outside. However, I didn't see the reg on that a/c. Does anyone know when it was delivered and how recent JL ordered it? I also saw the AF and JL 773ER's ready for delivery on the same lot.


User currently offlineRichie87 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

I can't really come up with any objective, technical, market-value, A vs. B, continuance of military-contract orders, or anything else other than this:
I simply LOVE the B767. It's always been my favorite for int'l travel, and I really like the coach seating arrangements in the things. I have been on most models at one time or another, and spent about 4 hours on a Delta -400 series, which I gather only DL and CO ordered. Pity. Well, I guess there are more efficient birds out there, and better ones on the way, but I always thought that was one of the best planes Boeing ever came up with. In my humble opinion....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2940 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4967 times:

JL ordered 7 more in in 2004 or 2003 and all will be taken by end of Fiscal year 2005 in Japan, so March 2006. Not sure of the status on NH's remaining 763ERs. There is one or two more 763ERs for Ethiopian but that's about it for civil orders. JASDF has 4 767 tankers on order but with delivery probably commencing late this year or next. I believe there is an order for Italian AF 767 tankers too.
It simple, "No USAF KC-767=good-bye 767-line."

Lastly, I too love flying on the 767, but it's just that all good things must come to an end.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4907 times:

which I gather only DL and CO ordered.

Actually, they're two among five companies which ordered.... they are, however, the only carriers to take delivery of any 767-400 variant.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

Again, DL and CO are the only airlines to order the 767-400. I will reiterate that USAF will acquire something like 50 767-400ERs.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 21 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

It would be sad if the B767 line shuts down if the Tanker deal does not get through.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
25 Post contains links and images American 767 : Kenya Airways would have been the third airline, and probably the only non US operator, to order the 767-400 if they went for it. I remember they were
26 Post contains links BlackKnight : Looks like an Airbus USAF Tanker is not as far out as some may think? State to bid for air tanker factory By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS January 24, 2005 New
27 MidnightMike : American 767 I thought that Turkmenistan is getting some 767-300ER's? When I was up in Seattle in September, there was a Turkmenistan 767 about 3/4 of
28 N328KF : BlackKnight: It is, of course, a contingent bid. The magic eight ball says "highly unlikely."
29 Post contains links BlackKnight : Normally I would agree N328KF, but Senator McCain who is getting ready for a Presidential run in 2008 has made it his personal responsibility to corre
30 N328KF : BlackKnight: You are one of these people who has misstaken McCain's penchant for fiscal responsibility with that of favoring Airbus or disfavoring Boe
31 BlackKnight : Look no politics please these are the facts: 1- The US has offended many EU countries over the past few years. 2- Yes Boeing cheated. 3- Senator McCai
32 American 767 : MidnightMike, Turkmenistan has indeed one 767-300, registered EZ-A700, but that particular aircraft is meant for government official transport purpose
33 N328KF : Boeing 767: I will reiterate your misinterpretation of McCain's political stance. He has shown a distinct tendency to not do exactly the things you're
34 Gigneil : Perhaps (but not definitively) you are also one of the people who has mistaken McCain's maverick conservatism for moderation or even RINO status. "Mav
35 N328KF : Gigneil: I'm all for that. In fact, I'm an ardent McCain supporter...which is why I keep stressing what BlackKnight doesn't seem to understand—that
36 Post contains images Daedaeg : It is my understanding that a decision on the 767 line will be made before the summer. A decision has to be finalized so that the factory can begin to
37 Post contains images LifelinerOne : If Airbus gets the KC-330 deal, I'm buying everyone on this forum a drink. Well, than let's set a date and time! Nah, I don't think it's going to happ
38 Hoya : Let's not forget that Boeing did receive 9 orders for 767s in 2004, so orders are still trickling in. Orders for 2004, all unidentified, consist of 3
39 Post contains links BlackKnight : 1st I agree that a A330 tanker is a long shot 2nd I am only surprised at the level of activity Airbus has done if they have not been given some hope.
40 N328KF : BlackKnight: It's all marketing at this point. Airbus wants you to think that they're as ready as possible. They'd probably like to even give the impr
41 NW7E7 : If USAF ordered some 767's they would go for the -400 variant because of the added capacity, comparable to that of the KC-10. It would be great if the
42 DfwRevolution : If USAF ordered some 767's they would go for the -400 variant because of the added capacity, comparable to that of the KC-10 No, they would not.... th
43 Whitehatter : I'm all for that. In fact, I'm an ardent McCain supporter...which is why I keep stressing what BlackKnight doesn't seem to understand—that Boeing's
44 BlackKnight : Just because it's a bad dealership doesn't mean it's a bad car. Really would you by from a bad dealership? Boeing is broken and I for one hope they re
45 Col : MaCain stopped the Government from pissing my taxes down the toilet, so good on him. Boeing will probably get the KC767, but at a better deal to the t
46 N328KF : Col: The RAF/RAAF selection of the A330 MRTT had a lot to do with the fallout from the Druyun fiasco. They cannot be contests considered solely on the
47 Starrion : The other thing to consider is the cost of ownership. The Air Force maintained the KC-135 fleet by buying tons of ex-civil 707's parking them at AMARC
48 Boeing7E7 : Looks like an Airbus USAF Tanker is not as far out as some may think? Never happen, no matter how cheap or where it's made. The rank and file do not w
49 TransportEng : The 767 has a bit of an image problem in my mind since there's a lot of old ones flying around and I've been in some bad ones. They are a nice size ai
50 Je89_w : Read somewhere that Hainan Airlines (China) ordered a few more B767-300s, can anyone confirm this? When would they be delivered?
51 Daedaeg : Just because it's a bad dealership doesn't mean it's a bad car. Really would you by from a bad dealership? Boeing is broken and I for one hope they re
52 Atmx2000 : He supports small government and increased civil liberties. Well, things like the campaign finance reform bill make you wonder about that. McCain also
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Boeing 767 Line "Still Open For Business" posted Mon Mar 13 2006 19:24:45 by Leelaw
Mulally: 767 Line To Remain Open posted Tue Jul 18 2006 16:31:50 by Leelaw
Boeing 767 Line To Close? posted Fri May 14 2004 13:56:01 by Joni
Why A Boeing 767? posted Thu Mar 30 2006 05:05:18 by JetBlueGuy2006
Boeing May Shut Down Its 767 Line posted Thu Mar 10 2005 09:15:34 by A380900
With The 7E7, Will Boeing Close The 767 Line Soon? posted Sun May 23 2004 03:29:56 by A380900
Are Boeing 767-200's Still In Production? posted Tue Aug 29 2000 16:41:39 by Aer Lingus
Aircraft Deliveries Airbus & Boeing, Bottom Line.. posted Thu Nov 23 2006 00:04:08 by Keesje
Boeing 767 Enhanced Interior-which Airlines? posted Thu Oct 26 2006 13:15:05 by Debonair
UA948 Operated With Boeing 767-300ER! posted Wed Oct 4 2006 15:09:28 by CV990