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Morgue On The A-380? Really?  
User currently offlineNsfguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14304 times:

I have read the new Skywhale will have a two person morgue on board. Refrigerated and sealed for odor's. Anyone have any real info on this?

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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14192 times:

I wouldn't be surprised. The A340-500 has one of those. Look in the database, there are pictures of it.

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14188 times:

Do they really expect a lot of people to be dying on their flights? I certainly hope not.  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14165 times:

It's nothing new.. people die onboard almost daily.. statistically, just because of the shear volumes these days..


User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1803 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14133 times:

They should have a small clinic staffed by a doctor instead. It may help save lives.


Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14119 times:

Maybe they can put the clinic in between the gym and the casino.  Big grin

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14108 times:

A small clinic and a doctor? That would surely wipe out whatever profit margin this aircraft has. Maybe these pax who are dying should not be flying in the first place......

User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1803 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14089 times:

Or maybe the refridgerated morge is a good idea. It can always be used to chill the liquor when there is no body in there  Big thumbs up


Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 13693 times:

Cruise ships have them, why not the 380?

-77



PHX based
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13664 times:

Cruise ships I would think you would absolutely need them. A few thousand people out on a boat for more than a week, and a lot of them being old. Someone is bound to die unfortunately.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13639 times:

"I wouldn't be surprised. The A340-500 has one of those. Look in the database, there are pictures of it."

You've peaked my curosity. I looked in the database here but couldn't find any. Anyone?

-77



PHX based
User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13628 times:

So how much are you willing to pay for this small clinic, doctor or nurse, insurance, licensing, drugs, etc? All for someone who will, for the most part, be treating air sick passengers.

If the aircraft has the range and capacity that Airbus promises, a small morgue would be used on occasion and after the intial cost and the associated maintenance costs doesn't really bite into the profit margin.


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 13530 times:

Or maybe the refridgerated morge is a good idea. It can always be used to chill the liquor when there is no body in there

"Ladies and gentlemen, given the unfortunate event of our fellow passanger's death, we need to remove all the beer from the chilled compartment in order to place his body there. So, from now on, beer is half-price. Enjoy the rest of your flight."  Acting devilish

Tony



Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13428 times:

Nice one SNATH.

I've never heard of a morgue on an aircraft but i have heard of people dying on an aircraft and doctors isuing death certificates onboard.

Dog


User currently offlineYYZ4RADD From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13289 times:

Sounds like a "grave" mistake on the part of Airbus...

Sometimes these airplane manufacturers go for the "overkill"

lol

Regards,

YYZ4RADD


User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13280 times:

I think saying they have a morgue is a little bit of an overstatement. It's nothing more than a compartment to store a deceased person. There's a little bit more to a morgue than that.

User currently offlineApfpilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13271 times:

I think its a great idea, SQ has them on the A345's. Seeing how SOP for most airlines has been just to cover the passenger in their seat with a blanket until arrival on a 12+ hour flight the body will start to decompose and make other pax uncomfortable.

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13249 times:

"I think its a great idea, SQ has them on the A345's. Seeing how SOP for most airlines has been just to cover the passenger in their seat with a blanket until arrival on a 12+ hour flight the body will start to decompose and make other pax uncomfortable. "

I don't think it's intended for people who die WHILE onboard. If someone is sick or dieing they would divert to the nearest airport anyway. More likely it's used for the already deceased being transported from one place to another, it's quite common.

-77



PHX based
User currently offlineFrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13214 times:

777 that's not at all what it's for. It's absolutely for people that expire onboard.

User currently offlineApfpilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13203 times:

No, they are definitely for people who die on board, people who are being transported as corpses aren't kept in the cabin. If you are over the middle of the pacific a diversion can be a long way, thats why it is necessary to have some place to store the body.

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13175 times:

I'm under the impression these "refrigerators" are under the main deck in the cargo hold? Anybody know for sure? I've yet to see a picture of one.

IF that's true, then they're not going to be able to put a dead person in there. How do you put a dead person in the cargo hold in flight?

Think about it like this, what are the odds someone is going to die in the middle of a flight? Do you think those odds are high enough to warrant Airbus including a "refrigerator" on the main deck? Having people die in the middle of a trans-oceanic flight is not a common event.

I'm sticking to my original theory, unless someone has some factual proof to back up their stance. Corpses as cargo are much more common and frequent than people dying in flight, that's simple statistics.

-77



PHX based
User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 13164 times:

I think the pic has been removed, I'm absolutely positive I saw one in the database once.


Destruction leads to a very rough road but it also breeds creation
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 13136 times:

I think the pic has been removed, I'm absolutely positive I saw one in the database once.

Oh, yes, it was there. I remember a thread about it, in fact.
I wonder why they removed it...

Tony



Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.
User currently offlineApfpilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 13136 times:

A link on the SQ a345:
"http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1213943,00.html"

as for how often it happens, often enough
"http://www.airlinecrew.net/ubbthreads/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=UBB5&main=126963&type=thread"


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 13092 times:

Heh, you're right, I'm wrong.

That's downright creepy. A locker by the exit doors? Ehh, that gives me the willies.

-77



PHX based
25 Apfpilot1985 : No kidding, no as creepy as spending 8 hours with a newly deceased person in the seat next to you though lol
26 CRPilot : Slow down fellows, last time I read something on this topic, I read that in the States, you cannot declare someone dead on board, unless there is a ph
27 Prebennorholm : Excuse me, are there any long range pax planes out there flying with no morgue? Let's assume 400 B777s, half of them flying at any one time with a loa
28 777WT : As for a fact, KLM had a person die in flight from AUA to the AMS in a 747, they landed somewhere in between to and the lady who sat next to him freak
29 Undehoulli : When I interned with ExpressJet this summer I learned of CO and ExpressJet's policy dealing with people who die on the flight. Obviously if it's a med
30 57AZ : I can't really see the possibility of having a doctor onboard each A380 flight. A more realistic possibility would be to outfit each bird with an adva
31 Flybyguy : I don't think it's intended for people who die WHILE onboard. If someone is sick or dieing they would divert to the nearest airport anyway. More likel
32 Malaysia : hope no one steals my kidneys for non-revving on an A380 flight
33 Videns : That might apply to sailors, but I work in the cruise industry and I'm told that when the ship doesn't have a temporary morgue, that they put the bodi
34 Britishmidland : I believe that this is an interesting topic, however this has been discussed ad naseum. Perhaps the airlines should start building morgues for themsel
35 Richie87 : I have seen an actual photo of the sky-morgue on the A345, which Singapore used. Obviously, a passenger dying in-flight can and has happened, and it's
36 Birdwatching : They cover them with a blanket and leave them in their seat? That is ridiculous! Do you think the passengers in the next seat want to sit next to a de
37 QANTASFOREVER : A morgue on the A380? Wow - I knew the flights were going to be long haul but I didn't know they'd be THAT long haul. QFF
38 Post contains images Dtwclipper : Here is a picture of the "deathbed" on the A340.
39 Wdleiser : It is easy to get to the Cargo holds in many aircraft during flight, there are stairs down to them. Don't turn this into an A vs. B war. I think every
40 777STL : "They cover them with a blanket and leave them in their seat? That is ridiculous! Do you think the passengers in the next seat want to sit next to a d
41 Afay1 : Someone aptly named Davy Jones' Locker on the SIA A345 "KrisMorgue"....
42 Cheekie747girl : We at LHR had an onboard death on our A340-300 (no morgue fitted) this past saturday, aircraft was diverting until pax pronounced dead. Death of pax d
43 FriendlySkies : ... more realistic possibility would be to outfit each bird with an advanced first aid kit, including an AED and require at least the lead flight atte
44 Post contains links GlobeTrekker : http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1560183/ The definitely removed the pic of the so-called "KrisMorgue" SQ had on the A3
45 Zippyjet : "Or maybe the refrigerated morgue is a good idea. It can always be used to chill the liquor when there is no body in there." Or maybe sushi and other
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