Airfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 650 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7170 times:
Must not be affecting operations too much, as 27L, 27R, and 22R are open for arrivals, and 22L, 32R, 32L are open for departures, according to the ATIS. Anyone know what runway it happened on?
Type-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 20 Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6894 times:
Over the weekend, ORD had a massive snow storm. While they can get most of the snow off the runways, there may be some residual snow/ice left. Just like a car on roads that have been plowed, the residual snow/ice can make a car slide, so can aircraft. Also, if there is any ice on the taxiways strong winds could blow an aircraft towards the edges. Due to the mounds of snow on the edges of the runway, taxiways, it is easier for pilots to misjudge the turns they must make and a wheel could go off the runway, taxiway ala Airport 1970.
Once I flew into MDW right after a big storm had blown through and we were taxiing very slowly to the FBO. A passenger asked why we couldn't move faster. I told him due to ice on the taxiways I didn't want to take any chances. His response: "Why don't you put it in low gear and speed up"!
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 28 Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6621 times:
Is it just me, or am I responding weekly with the same comments about AA and their MD-80s being involved in runway incident?
That can't be a good thing...
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
Aa717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6507 times:
Type-rated--I agree with your statement--to a degree.
If you are flying a MD80, you should be beyond the point of misjudging your turn onto a taxiway. I've landed on totally snow-packed runways (downhill on STL 30R) and it's just something you adjust to.
The wind blowing a plane off the ice-covered ramp or taxiway is certainly a possibility, though. Anyone know how well the ramps and taxiways were cleaned? ORD usually does a stellar job.TC
September11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6408 times:
I am following all AA M80s incidents. I'd like to see a photo of this M80 off the runway in O'Hare. Anyone care to post a link with photo in it?
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6311 times:
No kidding people.....there's been too many of these! Every time I see the thread title, I think it's just an old thread...but low and behold, it's a new one...maybe it's AA's huge fleet of these, or just complete odds stacked against them...either way, watch out for your mad doggies.
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6238 times:
hehe yea i thought it was an old thread too till this time it was at ORD! PVD, DEN and now ORD!! It is weird its always on an MD80 and its AA. why the commanaility? Hope veryone is ok!
Alex
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
Flightopsguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 346 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6193 times:
ORD runways clear and dry since early this morning, landing plan W (27's, 22R with LAHSO). May have switched to plan X in the evening. Wind less than 10kts after 21Z.
Jfernandez From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6175 times:
So what IS the deal with the AA S80's having these problems? Is it random luck, something inherent to the plane, or just the fact that there's a ton of these things in service?
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15990 posts, RR: 59 Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 3188 times:
So what IS the deal with the AA S80's having these problems? Is it random luck, something inherent to the plane, or just the fact that there's a ton of these things in service?
I'm sure it's just the sheer number of AA M80's -- about 350 in service.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4658 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
A319114:
I think since ORD became the primary airport for Chicago in the early 1960s, it has officially closed only 3 times. There was January, 1967, when Chicago was buried under 2 feet of snow. There was January, 1979, when we had about 21 inches and bitter cold. I think there was a shutdown in the early or mid 1970s in April. Although Chicago only got a little over a foot of snow, it came down very quickly and was very wet, making snow removal very difficult.
The New Year's snowstorm of 1999 didn't officially shut down ORD. There was one runway open, but pretty much every airline shut down operations on January 2nd.