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Is The E170 Living Up To Performance Expectations?  
User currently offlineChrisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

We've heard from US employees and others that the E170 has had problems with range/payload and general dispatch reliability, but Republic and others are happy enough with them to order more. Are the problems reported just teething trouble? Has Embraer gotten them sorted out? Were the problems really that bad in the first place?

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User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

There were some problems with the avionics that have been worked out. US Airways biggest problem is the routes. Their poor scheduling is killing them in the fuel burn department. 6800pph more than the CRJ-700.

User currently offlineCO2BGR From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 558 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

6800 pph is close to 1000 gallons per hour. The difference between empty wt and gross is about 35000lbs. You are saying that on a 2 hr flight the DIFFERENCE between an EM7 and a CR7 is 1/3 of the EM7 payload....I dont think so .... get some correct numbers next time instead of wildly guessing wrong.


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User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

There were some teething issues with the airplane that since have been worked out, mainly avionics/electrical (there were some anti-ice and fmc compatibility issues). We've discovered, however, that with 72 pax it's really not a good airplane for much more than 3 hrs block time. Beyond a 1,000-1,100 nm stage length you're going to start taking some serious payload penalties west bound. In this regard it's not much better than its younger siblings (e145). Where Boeing7E7 came up with those number and that statement is absolutely beyond me but I can assure you, they're not accurate. It's a great airplane cost wise and operationally for missions between about 550nm and 900nms. At least that's been our experience and have heard likewise from Republic/Chatauqua.

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