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User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 641 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9239 times:

I was bored and looking at the FAA accidents/incidents, when I came across this report
http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/D_0124_N.txt

I was just wondering if anyone had any further information?

WingnutMN


Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! It's a bonus if you can fly the plane again!!
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User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9076 times:

You shouldn't have brought this topic out and into the open. WN is one of the media darlings and also one of the chosen instruments with their passengers. If this was a legacy carrier there would have been reports worldwide about how a grave and potentially great disaster was just narrowly avoided and thanks to God all are alive now to see the sun rise again. Since this is WN and an instrument delivered by God the same as JetBlue there will be no press reports about this even here in the WN hometown of Dallas or Ft.Worth. I am watching the morning news now here in DFW and there is no mention whatsoever but that is not even close as a surprize to me. You should follow the media and try to cover this up and say nothing as WN are making money and they as the others with the same Wall Street darlings can do no wrong.

User currently offlineDlx737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1904 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9013 times:

Why can't he post this? Do you seriously think people are going to say, "Oh let's not fly WN anymore!" Just because WN is making money doesn't mean he can't post something that happened on board. Thank you for the info WingnutMN. I'm quite sure WN will not see any decrease in their sales thanks to your post.  Big thumbs up

Also, what makes you think that only legacy carries get bad press? Surely not... American Media would release any bad press in a heartbeat about an LCC. Hell, they've made plently of articles about Independence losing money and cutting flights, and they're an LCC. Give me a break!

You should follow the media and try to cover this up and say nothing as WN are making money and they as the others with the same Wall Street darlings can do no wrong.

Maybe I'm outta line here, but please tell me you were just joking or being sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!! That line makes it sound like you worship LCCs!

-Justin


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8232 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8980 times:

What the hell are you talking about, Notdownnlocked?


This Website Censors Me
User currently offlineAirtrader From Netherlands, joined Jun 2004, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8972 times:

Notdownlocked you must joking with your comment. This is an airliner forum where we airline enthousiasts like to discuss and inform our fellow enthousiatsts with all kinds of news regarding aviation; Wallstreet darlings or no wallstreet darlings.


Cabin Crew: doors to manuel and crossdress
User currently offlineDHLSAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8949 times:

What the hell are you talking about, Notdownnlocked?

He obviously has an axe to grind with WN. One thing I have noticed in my short time here is that a few have a flat out hate for WN, maybe they lost their job due to them or couldn't get hired by them, I don't know, but some go out of their way to knock WN.



Yellow?
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8917 times:

wonder what all this has to do with WN ? mean, this can happen to any crewmember in the world. things like this hardly make it into the news and who (except us here) the f..k would care aboout it?


I exchanged political frustration with sexual boredom. better spoil a girl than the world
User currently offlineUAL-Fan From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8914 times:

The guy got sick.....why do you think they have 2 people up there? How could this possibly say something bad about WN?

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8908 times:

"Bitter...table for one!"  Big grin

Thanx for the link to the page though, could be some interesting reading (I agree when there's not a lot else to do).


User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8886 times:

I have no hate whatsoever with WN and yes my last post was sarcastic if you didn't notice WN lovers. Also here where I am we see nothing about Independence Air because they don't land anywhere close to this area. We hear nothing about them except what is said here on these forums and those in the local area that read these forums. The only sign of I-Air here is their whited out CRJ's flown here by Skywest. For the average person here they could be based on Mars for what they know. Also of course because WN is making money there is no press reports about this incident especially since all day there were live reports on the local news last week and live interviews with their employees at the top of every hour here in DFW with them wearing their pajamas to worship the retirement of their 737-200. The media are not about to turn around and tell the local population about this incident after all the praise bestowed upon them last week. You all need to think globally and not locally. And yes I do think that only the legacy carriers get the majority of the bad press. That is my opinion and you are welcome to try to convince me otherwise. My opinion is that the press follows the heard mentality of Wall Street and what they say must be the word that is carved in stone.

User currently offlineMikeyUSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8772 times:

There isn't any bad press here to be reported.. the guy got sick, they landed the plane.. it isn't like parts of the aircraft are falling off in flight.. there is no great conspiracy by the media or anyone else in this case.

As Freud said, sometimes a cake is just a cake..



User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8734 times:

You all need to think globally and not locally.

And citing that this news was not mentioned in DFW only is thinking globally?

I don't know what news channels you watch, but there was only *some* mention of the 737-200 retirement here in DFW, but certainly not a top story. This WN "incident" was not much of a story; people get sick all the time, passengers and crew. Unfortunately, no money lost means no one's going to truly care.



That's why we're here.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8635 times:

>>>That is my opinion and you are welcome to try to convince me otherwise.

Notdownnlocked,

With all the rambling comments (I-Air, 737-200 retirement, conspiracy theories, etc.) I don't think I'd even care to try...  Insane

Notwithstanding the old "if it bleeds; it leads" rationale that the media often seems to follow, it just might not have been -that- slow a news days for a truly minor event like this to make the news. That doesn't equate to a "conspiracy" by anyone, but if it makes you feel better to believe that, you go right ahead...


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

I am quite sure there has been a number of cases where a Captain/1stFO has had a sudden illness, heart attack, stroke, or other sudden illness that incapicated them on many airlines. This is nothing new, the other pilot took over, executed an medical emergency landing, as is why there is the 2nd pilot there. I hope the Pilot in question recovers where they can fly again for WN. I like that the above link also has a reference to the Polar Air Cargo flight that ran off the end of the runway at JFK this past Saturday, attempting a landing in snow storm conditions, including info as to the a/c involved.

User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8419 times:

While were on the subject of Southwest crew being temporarily incapacitated..here's another incident yesterday at BUF.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050126/3066810.asp



User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8305 times:

Well in my ramblings OPNLguy, if you look at post number 2 you will see where I respond to the comment about I-Air. You should read the posts a little closer if you wish to mount an attack upon me. Yes here in the DFW media there were about 10-15 blurbs about the retirement of the WN 737 during the morning newscasts alone on various TV channels. I cannot answer about the noon and night newscasts and in addition there were articles written in the local newspapers as well that came out the following day. As for the idea of a "conspiracy theory" those are your own misguided words that you have fabricated on your own as I never mentioned nor have I alluded to anything of the sort. Please don't use my posts to usher in your own ideas and try to portray me here in a bad light. I have my opinion and that is that. Show me where I say anything about some conspiracies as you mention twice in your post all the while you supposedly quote me as saying just that.

"With all the rambling comments (I-Air, 737-200 retirement, conspiracy theories, etc.) I don't think I'd even care to try... "


User currently offlineSwasdf From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8259 times:

Maybe they should set up a news channel just for you Notdownlocked and all the haters to report every time a crew member gets sick. Pilots are just regular people that can get sick.


My views are mine, and are not the views of Southwest Airlines. The opposite lately!
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8223 times:

I'm still amazed that something as innocous(sp?) as a thread on a WN pilot can turn into a flame war. Lighten up people, not everything is a personal attack, conspiracy, or whatever else you wish to take offense to.

-77



PHX based
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

>>>Please don't use my posts to usher in your own ideas and try to portray me here in a bad light.

Wouldn't think of it, but your posts speak for themselves.

Have a nice day...


User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

This topic did get way out of hand, so here is my lighten up part. He must have had the fish. Glad to see that old Striker is still around on planes to land them safely. Also, do they still carry those blow up pilots in the cockpit for situations like this?


Propeller, we don't need no stinkin propeller
User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9340 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8069 times:

Notdownandlocked--

LOVED your initial response. That was great, hilarious, and so very cynic, yet so very true. I loved it a lot. Kudos to you.




Eternal darkness we all should dread. It's hard to party when you're dead.
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7917 times:
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Oh yes, Notdownnlocked, Shame on the mass media for focusing on American for having 3-4 runway overruns/short landings in the past 2-3 months.

Their time would obviously have been better spent covering the WN plane that "diverted and landed without incident".

 Insane


2H4



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User currently offlineJetBlast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7877 times:

C'mon people! Everyone gets sick eventually, it just so happened that it happened to a pilot in mid-flight. It's not his fault! This should not make anyone in their right mind to be afraid to fly WN. They have the Shamu plane!

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JetBlast @ BWI  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Speedbird Concorde One
User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7727 times:

How in the hell did this post go array? All I was posting this for was to INFORM you people of this incident, not to bash WN or any other airline. If it happened to UA, AA, NW, DL, CO, F9, etc, etc.....I would have written the same thing. All I wanted to know is if someone had anymore info on what happened......Like.......was it just the flu? Was it a heart attack? Was it a seizure? Questions like that. Not that I am trying to bring down WN with my own posting power! And yes, I know that this happens (pilots/crew getting sick), but it is still news when it happens!

WingnutMN



Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! It's a bonus if you can fly the plane again!!
User currently offlineTnsaf From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7616 times:

I don't think you need to get too wrapped up about media coverage of any airline. The local Fox station in DFW during the 737-200 retirement coverage called the airplane a 727. Serves me right for watching Fox.


700 hours and counting...
25 Hawk44 : The guy probably had a bad steak in OMA and got ill in the sky no big deal. Afterall it is cold and flu season I just heard Patriots QB Tom Brady had
26 Post contains images Newark777 : Now who doesn't love Shamu?! These people. Harry
27 2H4 : That is my opinion and you are welcome to try to convince me otherwise. The original post isn't what "sent this post array". Your subsequent opinions
28 Isitsafenow : HAWK44, ya saved the day..lol. The point the lead post was making is how the new media reacts to different companies or people or political parties fo
29 BR715-A1-30 : If this was a legacy carrier there would have been reports worldwide about how a grave and potentially great disaster was just narrowly avoided and th
30 Isitsafenow : 2H4.....a none event it was NOT, as you stated but on what is know as a "no news day" the media make big deals out of nothing. How many times have we
31 Post contains images 2H4 : Now, if NW or USAIRWAYS had made the news two days ago, and this Omaha pilot thing came up the very next day with NW or USAIRWAYS, bet the bank, an "e
32 Post contains links Av8trxx : Like what should the airline do, call the news station and advertise?! Unless that happens, you aren't going to hear about most incidents unless somon
33 Spoke2Spoke : Newark 777 that was awesome. Sweet movie I bet
34 Baw716 : This is a very sad thing. A pilot becomes ill inflight, the no 2 lands the aircraft with no difficulty (they are trained to fly and land the aircraft
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