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Icelandair Order 10 737-800  
User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4186 posts, RR: 89
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10242 times:
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Didn't expect this one!

By Susanna Ray
Jan. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Boeing Co. received an order for 10
737-800 airplanes from Icelandair Hf, Iceland's biggest airline,
with an option to buy five more.
The order is worth $650 million at list price, Chicago-based
Boeing said today in an e-mailed statement.




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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10205 times:

great news for boeing after all the airlines that choose the A320 family!!!


didn't expected them to buy the 737!!!


User currently offlineDayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10189 times:

Cool! Great news for both companies. I wish them continued success.


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10159 times:

Probably going to assign them on routes to continental Europe. Or maybe to the U.S.?


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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10110 times:

That was out of the blue! I hope FI all the success, but I wish they'd reduce their airfares a bit (guess we'll have to settle for Iceland Express till then).

The 738s should look great in FI's c/s!

Will they be fitted with winglets?

Horus




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User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4186 posts, RR: 89
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10075 times:
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Hi Horus,

We'll need to wait about the winglets as I haven't got the full statement from Boeing yet. I'd assume they will. One thing for sure...more 737 across the Atlantic!

Regards



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10009 times:

Hey PANAM_DC10

I initially assumed they'd definitely go for the winglets considering the distances they fly, but FI have previously used 733s and 734s on its route network.

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/index.php?file=flottecieh&opp=Icelandair&app=b737

Horus




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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7533 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9998 times:

didn't expected them to buy the 737!!!

Given the fact that the 757 (the mainstay of Icelandair's fleet) is no longer being produced; what choice do they have among current Boeing metal? Although, the only surprise seems to be that they went for the 738 instead of the 739.



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User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4186 posts, RR: 89
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9964 times:
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Horus

Too right, I recall one of my best photo's is that of an Icelandair 734 @ AMS. I agree that the distance they fly should make them lean toward winglets. We need a copy of the Press release but it's embargoed still!

Regards



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9935 times:

PANAM_DC10

Well I trust you'll post the press release here as soon as you get it  Smile

And can you show the photo you're referring to of the 737@AMS? is it on the A.net database?

Horus




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User currently onlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9920 times:

Probably going to assign them on routes to continental Europe. Or maybe to the U.S.?

I'm going to guess a steady mix of both. Their operations are fundamentally pretty simple...most eastbound traffic arrives in the early morning and connects onwards, and those flights return later that afternoon to connect to points westbound back again. If anything--and this is likely wishful thinking on my part--this will create some opportunity to open stations in locations that would otherwise not support a 757: in the States, cities such as MKE, IND, STL, PVD, etc. immediately come to mind.

Definitely an unexpected but fantastically exciting order for a great little airline!

-Mike



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User currently onlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9782 times:

Horus,

The 738s should look great in FI's c/s!

I couldn't agree more. the FI current color scheme is one of the most tasteful ones around. I love seeing their B757s at BOS when I leave out of Terminal E.

PHLBOS,

Although, the only surprise seems to be that they went for the 738 instead of the 739.

We can only assume that they actually wanted the extra range that they B738 has over the B739 (even though it is not all that much) and that probably they actually wanted a plane that is smaller than their B757s, instead of being roughly the same size. The former might also indicate that they will be getting winglets too (it's really funny how everyone here is always curious whether a new B737 order will be with winglets or not! it's usually the first question asked).

Tony



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9773 times:

I would not have expected them to go for the 739s because they have shorter legs--the 738 will suit them fine--and honestly, I don't think the 757 not being produced anymore has anything to do with this order at all--these aircraft will surely compliment the 757 fleet not replace them.


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7533 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9764 times:

this will create some opportunity to open stations in locations that would otherwise not support a 757: in the States, cities such as MKE, IND, STL, PVD, etc. immediately come to mind.

WHAT??? While I can't necessarily speak for MKE, I do know that IND (TZ's hub), STL (former TW hub) and PVD can certainly support larger aircraft.

Here's a photo of a DL 757 at PVD taken in 2003.

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Photo © T Silgrim



As a matter of fact, one AFC Championship football team (you guess the name) uses PVD (which is closer to Gillette Stadium than BOS) for their charter flights on DL. Being that their next trip will be for the Super Bowl over at JAX; I can assure you that the DL metal they'll be flying on will be larger than a 757.

Edited to add:

If you were only talking in terms of passenger volume (as opposed to airport size), then I can possibly see some validity in your statement.

[Edited 2005-01-26 16:48:02]


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User currently offlineTFJamie From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9714 times:

It will sadden us who like the c/s so well that they will probably not get that paint.

To elaborate on this matter, FI is NOT purchasing these planes for their own routes but as a basis for their new aircraft holding company that buys, sells and leases aircraft.

The plan, according to Icelandic news is to lease them around the world, China has been mentioned in this regard. They will be collaborating with aircraft leasing company Sunrock in marketing the aircraft.


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9715 times:

PHLBOS, I'm certain that the comment about those airports not being able to support something larger than a B737-800 was specifically about flights between them and KEF - not about the airport's ability to support those planes in general.

Nice order for FI and Boeing - is there anyone who actually saw this order coming? Because, so far, it really seems to have surprised all of us... me certainly included...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9652 times:

Nice order for Boeing, just a pity the a/c won'ty operate in Icelandair c/s  Sad


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9649 times:

"It will sadden us who like the c/s so well that they will probably not get that paint.

To elaborate on this matter, FI is NOT purchasing these planes for their own routes but as a basis for their new aircraft holding company that buys, sells and leases aircraft.

The plan, according to Icelandic news is to lease them around the world, China has been mentioned in this regard. They will be collaborating with aircraft leasing company Sunrock in marketing the aircraft."

Well doesn't that throw-out everyones comments.  Nuts



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User currently onlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9622 times:

TFJamie and Drerx7,

You're absolutely right. This is also confirmed on the FI WWW site. Click here to see it (the link was pretty long to include it in the message).

It's 10 firm + 5 options.

Tony



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User currently offlineAtltraveler From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9535 times:

Is it possible that some of these aircrafts will be used for AI low cost subsidery starting later this year ??

User currently onlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9390 times:

PHLBOS, yes, I was speaking about whether those markets could fill a 737 vis-a-vis a 757. While I'm unsure of the specific runway requirements, I can't imagine that they differ too significantly between the two, but sorry for the relative lack of clarity all the same.

In light of other posts since, it appears as though the FI expansion theorizing has become moot anyway as these planes appear destined for other paint on them. Oh well!

-Mike

P.S. Thanks for helping with the clarification, Frank.  Smile



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User currently offlineHr001 From Honduras, joined Nov 2004, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9193 times:

It´s on Boeing's Website now
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050126g.html


User currently offlineLuv767s From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

The Icelandair site says:

"During the past 6 weeks The Flugleidir Icelandair Group has participated in the purchase of 16 aircraft. Among those are 3 Boeing 757-500 leased to Air Baltic Latvia and three Boeing 757-200s of which one is leased out but two used by Icelandair¿s network operation."

Do they really mean 737-500s or 757-300s instead of 757-500s?


the Boeing site confirms 737-500s.

[Edited 2005-01-26 19:04:37]


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7533 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9132 times:

Among those are 3 Boeing 757-500 leased to Air Baltic Latvia

Wow, these must be super-stretch 757s  Wow!


Obviously a typo.



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9033 times:

Think they might go to KLM, since they were saying that in the first couple of years they won't order any new aircraft type but are focusing on replacement of the older fleets with newer types already in the fleet

might see the last 13 737-400's go now...


25 A388 : Am I the only who read the article differently. The article states that these 738's will be leased out to other airlines, so will they not be used by
26 Neder99 : Those "757-500"s for Air Baltic are indeed 737-500s! A388: You're right, Icelandair won't be using the new 737-800s themselves.
27 Post contains images Lindy : All this comotion for nothing Rafal (I'm laughing very hard )
28 Post contains images Cospn : Good news would make Indy happy.. 1st Int'l Atlantic Intl for IND I'm going to guess a steady mix of both. Their operations are fundamentally pretty s
29 Gilesdavies : PRESS RELEASES ICELANDAIR "The Flugleidir Icelandair group to build aircraft leasing business The Flugleidir Icelandair Group and Boeing today signed
30 Post contains images A388 : Icelandair is indeed a great airline, you never hear much from them and they've always managed to keep flying without much trouble. I wish them all th
31 OzarkD9S : Are these replacements for 734's? I guess when the time comes they'll go with the 7E7 to replace the 757's.
32 Neder99 : I suggest reading the whole thread. The new 738s are NOT replacing any of Icelandair's current aircraft. Their destined solely for leasing to third pa
33 Post contains images 777ER : Way to go Icelandair and Boeing Any idea on who will get the B738s?
34 ERJ170 : Not meaning to sound stupid, and wishing no derogatory remarks towards myself or my education.. but I did not know that Iceland was part of North Amer
35 Neder99 : Iceland IS actually part of Europe, always has been, always will be. The Icelandair North America website is its website for the North American market
36 Gearup : Great news, I hope they don't delete the eyebrow windows. I always liked that feature of the classic Boeing nose. GU
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