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How Is ATA Connection Doing At IND?  
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3598 times:

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know how the IND-SBN, EVV, and FWA flights are doing?


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

From ATA's press release today:

"Effective March 28, ATA will end Chicago Express service from Chicago to Flint, South Bend and Grand Rapids, as well as recently-announced service from Indianapolis to Evansville, Milwaukee, South Bend, Fort Wayne and Flint. Service from Indianapolis to Gary, IN, previously scheduled to start February 1, will not be initiated."



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User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

REALLLLY bad after today's announcement !!!!!!

User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Crappy......crappy......and more crappy......

Here at DAY we are having a terrible last month load wise(because it's January and we're closing).....and we're still the third busiest onnection city(couple hundred pax behind FNT and GRR). What a joke!

In other news.....on February 1st there will be a hearing in the bankruptcy court in Indiana on whether to appoint an examiner to investigate financial dealings between Chicago Express and ATA Airlines. The objection comes from NatTel.....who put in a bid for CE back in December. I wonder if ATA smells something is coming.....why the hell don't they just sell it off???

Chris


User currently offlineWmupilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

Bye bye Chicago Express Airlines.


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4522 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

News here last night stated Chicago Express would be going up for sale.


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User currently offlineAirtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3311 times:
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So does that mean that C8 will be out of MKE period? It is my understanding that they only fly to IND right now, would the go back to MDW? Or are these people screwed out of a job too?


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User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

CHicago express will have no flights operating anywhere!

User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

"News here last night stated Chicago Express would be going up for sale."

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Hmm... SW Express out of MDW? If SW is agreeable to a TZ codeshare, why not a "SW Express" codeshare with the new owners of C8 or some other regional carrier?

I think loads out of FNT, GRR, DAY, TOL and others connecting to SW mainline at MDW would be strong.



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User currently offline7e72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

With ATA connection leaving completely, what would be the chances of Northwest starting some of those routes with regional jets or turboprops. They have enough destinations/flights out of IND that SBN service and even EVV, FWA service could work.  Smile


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3843 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3253 times:

what about commutair or even skwywest making the intra-state flights....they can still operate under CO Connection.....and it can be even more beneficial since NW is flying many new routes that they can have the connections to. just a thought.


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User currently offline7e72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3253 times:

I think it would work; I would start out with maybe 2 or 3 flights daily and see how the load factors work. SBN and EVV could be good ideas; FWA i would not be so sure about.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3228 times:

NW is not going to start turboprop flying at IND. NW will continue to feed traffic from SBN, FWA, and EVV through its existing hubs at DTW, MSP, MEM where they offer a lot more flight options that IND. IND is mostly designed to suit the needs of people there and offer service in key leisure and business destinations where they want to fly nonstop.

NW is not going to canabalize its existing hub network, those smaller midwest cities are the bread and butter of its route network.


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4522 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3224 times:

Judging by MEM numbers it really doesn't seem like much of a hub. Plus the O/D numbers at MEM are among the worst. With high O/D costs, a terminal stuck in the 70's and no room to grow I doubt NW would be 100% loyal to MEM. Just not a financially sound to focus your future on a place like MEM.


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User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3209 times:

Tjwgrr.....

Southwest wants nothing to do with turboprop flying. Even the President of Chicago Express explicitly stated that.

Chris


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