VonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4624 posts, RR: 38 Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6649 times:
Saw this in the paper today. Looks like Westjet is applying for ETOPS to start flights to Hawaii. I'm hoping a YYC-HNL flight will be in there
WestJet sets sights on Hawaii
January 27, 2005
WestJet Airlines Ltd. has started to certify its planes to fly greater distances over water, opening the door to new destinations like Hawaii.
The Calgary-based discount carrier has applied to Transport Canada for ETOPS certification -- extended-range twin-engine operations -- to permit the airline to fly longer distances over water, a spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday.
Wjv04 From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 578 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6531 times:
I was speaking with a a captain today, he was saying that the majority of the ETOPS certification is done, and that they are very close. I have a feeling it will work out right when the new 600s with the winglets show up.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3549 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6448 times:
It is Aloha who is pulling out of YVR. Hawaiian doesn't have any Canadian destinations.
I've said it in another thread that Westjet should use at least the -700 and not the -600. The -700 has better range than the -600 and lower operating costs. The extra range would be beneficial since they may add Hawaii flights from YYC.
CanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6186 times:
Aloha to end Burbank and Vancouver service
In order to reposition aircraft for the added Orange County and San Diego flights, Aloha will be discontinuing service to Burbank and Vancouver. Effective February 1, Aloha's Burbank-Reno service will be suspended. On April 3, all service from Burbank will be discontinued. Then, on April 11, Aloha's service to Vancouver will end. Reservations will continue to be taken through the last day of service. Passengers booked on future Aloha flights to and from Burbank and Vancouver will be re-accommodated.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3549 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6113 times:
Keep in mind that we also have 737-800's w/winglets coming in April, May, and June.
If the -800 can make it YYC-HNL, they should use it. They have the feed at YYC to do fill the aircraft. The -800 can definitely can make it YVR-HNL, but is on the edge of the -800's still air range.
Aloha is leaving YVR due to it being a non-profitable route for them. The yields were too low even though I remember the loads being quite decent, in the 70% range which was supposed to the load factor in which it would be a profitable flight.
CO737800 From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 545 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6030 times:
Does anyone know how Harmony is doing on the Yvr to Hawaii run? They seem to have added more flights so I would think they are doing good. I can see the Palm Springs flight doing BAD. They should think about doing Miami or Orlando.
PADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5956 times:
.... Strange. I always thought that a given type of aircraft has ETOPS certification for a particular distance (90, 120, 180min etc). It was new to me that also the airline has to apply for certification.
OK, maybe there are higher maintenance requirements for the engines and the crew has to be better trained for emergency situation. Can anybody help me there with some information ?
Cgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 345 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5609 times:
It stands for Extended Twin Operations, if I'm not mistaken. It has to do with how far a twin engine aircraft can be from a suitable diversion airport in case of an emergency, usually measured in minutes. I'm sure someone can explain in better detail.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25989 posts, RR: 78 Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5554 times:
>A 737-800 can't make it from Canada to HNL.<
Tell Air Pacific that Neil. It can make YVR, YYC would not go. I don't know about with winglets, but a standard 736 has around the same range as a standard 738 so that would not really be a change. A 73G, however would be a good choice
WJ will be better equiped to offer the flights as they are a true LCC with all Y service (as opposed to AQ's F/Y service) and have the feed on the more important end.
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SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4344 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5528 times:
I believe you are correct. My information is that ETOPS operators monitor their engines very closely and will pull them rather than risk a shut down. Their maintenance has to be of the very highest order which raises the question in my mind about some operators who could be operating twins but will not.