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1st Boeing In OS Colors Since 35 Years!  
User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11311 times:

Yesterday evening around 10:00pm the first Boeing Jet showing OS colors arrived at Vienna Airport from the paintshop at Shannon. It is the B767-3Z9/ER (cn 30383/812) reg. OE-LAE spotting now the new Austrian livery.

Up to 5 767 might follow in the next months for repainting in OS colours.


Fresh and beautiful out of the paintshop - OE-LAE B767-379/ER

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The only Boeing aircraft having shown OS colors so far was a B707-329 (OE-LBA) around 1970 having been leased from Sabena for VIE-JFK flights (was a quite unsuccessful operation).


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For some background information on the "why's" - why NG aircraft in OS colors and so on - there is another thread showing the 1st Airbus in NG colours having some additional information on the planned fleet swapping OS-NG : http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1924973/

=TW741=


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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11159 times:

Cool! it looks really great, although i liked them more in the NG colours.


btw, is it still true that OS will receive 2 Aerflot 777's while Aeroflot will receive the A340-200?


User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11086 times:

btw, is it still true that OS will receive 2 Aerflot 777's while Aeroflot will receive the A340-200?

Hi Maurice!
Those rumours are still around, it would make sense for OS but not for SU - and to make it more complicated the 2 SU 772 are just leased aircraft ... I personally dont believe that this deal ever will go through ...



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12114 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11059 times:
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The B763 does look nice in OS colours. Does OS have any plans on adding different Boeing models?

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20561 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11023 times:

That really looks sharp! Just goes to show that a mainly white fuselage doesn't have to be of the generic "eurowhite" variety. WTG OS  Smile


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User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

Does OS have any plans on adding different Boeing models?

OS as the airline will get the 3 772 and 5 763 from the NG fleet painted in OS colours.

OS as the holding company and owner ("OS Group") of OS/NG/VO (plus 6Q since some days) owns and operates 9 B737 (733/734/736/737/738) - all in NG or Star Alliance livery, 6 B763 (1 will stay in NG colors, the others will be repainted in OS colors) and 3 B772 (presently NG colours to be repainted in OS colours sometime this year).

A few B738 are scheduled for delivery 2005 and 2006 but at the same time the 733 and 734 will be phased out.

So for the airline group they operate quite a good number of Boeings (all "NG" aircraft) - but for the airline "Austrian Airlines" it is something new to have Boeings in their own livery

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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 10759 times:

YES!!


I really like that livery on the 767-300!!

I can not wait until a 777 is painted in it!

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It looks a bit like the A330-200 though....



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does anyone know if the A340-200s will be painted in new livery?

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and why did Austrian paint a A320 in Lauda livery?


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User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 10712 times:

does anyone know if the A340-200s will be painted in new livery?

So far only 1 A340 is planned for repainting in the new colours - OE-LAG (A340-212) is scheduled to be in the paintshop in February 2005. The 3 other A340's have no date set for repainting.


and why did Austrian paint a A320 in Lauda livery?
Because this A320 (plus 1 or 2 others to follow) will be used by NG for the charter/leisure flights of OS group (meant also getting some more seats into the cabin...)

I can not wait until a 777 is painted in it!
unfortunately you will have to wait for it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
but I think this color scheme will look great on the 777 ....




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User currently offlineRickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10552 times:

I think now as the first steps of a visual integration of Lauda into Austrian is done, it will go faster now with the "psychological" integration process....

rgds rickster

btw...LAE "Louis Armstrong" looks great as well in OS colors such as LBQ "Wienerwald" does in NG colors...

Another question.... what happend to their former given names do they keep them?  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10526 times:

Hi Maurice!
Those rumours are still around, it would make sense for OS but not for SU - and to make it more complicated the 2 SU 772 are just leased aircraft ... I personally dont believe that this deal ever will go through ...


hi, thanks for youre answer, well actually it does makes sense, OS wan't more Seats and SU can't fill the 777.....


User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10458 times:

Let's see here... NG is going with Airbus, OS is going with Boeing. Is that a swap of a/c manufacturers? Or is NG being merged into OS?


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User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 10447 times:

It's certainly very intersting to see Boeings painted in full Austrian colors for the first time in so many years.

What aircraft did Austrian fly back in the days, if not Boeings?


The new Austrian livery is at best, ok. There are worse out there, however this one doesn't set any new standards either. I kind of liked the blue cheatline that turns into green in the older livery.

-M  Smile


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10382 times:

OS's colours look dreadful no matter what aircraft they are painted on - that is one sad awful livery !

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10329 times:

What is somewhat incomprehensible for is that NG (=Austrian Leisure) will operate the B738 and the A320, which have almost the same capacity and will be used on virtually the same routes, parallel to each other.

Does NG lack capacity, so they need these A320? Otherwise adding another aircraft type would just produce additional costs and complexity.

Not that the OS Group fleet would be a role model for commonality anyways...  Insane



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User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10308 times:

QuestAir: NG is going with Airbus, OS is going with Boeing. Is that a swap of a/c manufacturers? Or is NG being merged into OS
One could say it is the practical version of the most beloved a-netter game "A" against "B" or so  Laugh out loud

It is the long awaited step of the OS headoffice also to show visually the final integration into OS on the one hand and to have a better seperation between the 2 products "scheduled flights" (OS) and "leisure/charter flights" (NG) on the other side. Especially with the (important) long hauls to Asia/Australia it was - over the past time - a problem for people to understand that they fly OS and not NG anymore and finally they ended up in NG aircraft again but where welcomed on board an OS flight ... this should be resolved pretty soon.



@Miamix707 What aircraft did Austrian fly back in the days, if not Boeings?
OS present fleet comprises A319/320/321/332/342/343/F70/F100 just to name the most important aircraft types. The regional fleet consists of about 17 CRJ's and 20 DH8. Altogether OS group is operating with about 110 aircraft.

OS never wanted Boeings - OS was a long time customer for all kind of DC9/MD80 variants (even was launch customer for a single model) and when the airline entered the long-haul market they bought A310's.
When it was time to get new/additional aircraft over the MD's OS went with Airbus and stayed now for years with airbus.
Mr Lauda - the former owner of NG - was favouring Boeing. So NG had an all Boeing fleet. When Lauda finally sold his airline, OS purchased not only an airline (including the debt), they acquired a completely different fleet philosophy & brand - so it comes that OS now finally gets its first Boeing jet in OS colours - strange but true....

with the green-blue stripe you are talking about the "1996 color scheme" - thats gone, nobody really liked it ....



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10257 times:

@Miamix707 "What aircraft did Austrian fly back in the days, if not Boeings?"

In the early days Vickers Viscount and Caravelle. Later 70-80s only DC-9s and MD 80 Family. They had no long haul service for years, till they received their first A310-300, which was used to NYC and even Tokyo. After that they switched their main suplliers from only MDD to only Airbus and now a mixed fleet.

P.S. I hope AUA will be a got example for Lufthansa to order some Boeing planes, maybe 787 !!



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10181 times:

nobody really liked it? then they all have pretty bad taste. It wasn't exactly an attention-grabber but still more creative and colorful than their older one and a few other liveries of that time such as Swissair.


The only thing wrong with it was the font they used, weak almost invisible, the one they're using now isn't much better. Looks like a little girl designed this livery with that baby blue. Those flying ravens or whatever they are bother me, they look like they're sticking out of the plane.

Is not horrible as JGPH1A said, but it's definitely a crappy design. I can't think of anybody who would notice these airplanes, other than the hard core aviation photographer or enthusiast, or 13 year olds like AlitaliaMD11 (no offense intended)


By the way thanks for refreshing my memory, now I remember the MDs!!! They've had airbuses too for a long time. I must have been like 11 or 12, and I saw a picture on the back of a magazine of an Austrian A310. That was back in the 80s, in the old, old scheme with the big red arrow in the front.

Did they serve JFK with these A310s?

 Smile


User currently offlineDayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10133 times:

Very cool! Great looking colors. Congratulations on the makeover!


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User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10130 times:

@Tristar500 - "a role model for commonality"

*gg* - the total fleet of the OS group shows that there are a lot of good manufacturers with different models out there on the market and OS is using a good portion of it  Nuts - at least the visual picture of the fleet is not so boring ....

Regarding the A320's now with NG/Austrian leisure (great that you used this name!) - some tour operators requested to have A320's for charters rather than B738 in order to offer the same aircraft type to their customers as other tour operators have by chartering LTU or Flyniki equipment. This was one of the reasons for relocating 2 (3) A320 to the Austrian leisure flyers called NG....



@Miamix - yes they used to fly the A310-300 to JFK, ORD, IAD and even TYO! And yes that was the time with the big red arrow.
Reg the green-blue line - I agree that the overall picture with the cheatline and the thin letters where no good combination - especially when you think of the bold red-white-red tail. I think people didnt like this colours as at this time OS started to experiment with interior colours as well (seat covers also in this fancy green-blue-red) and the head-to-shoes-bright-red uniforms. It was - uhm - a little bit to colorful...


[Edited 2005-01-28 15:18:18]


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User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10110 times:

oh ok nevermind, Columba just answered that for me, thanks! Yea I wish LH would mix it up with some Boeings, and get a real livery.

Off the top of my head I don't recall seeing pics of OS Caravelles or their 70's paintscheme, I do remember the MD80s and A310s of the 1980s.

I don't know why but I'm finding this thread fun Big grin


User currently offlineRickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10060 times:

miamix....
just go to the main page photo search
and then select aircraft type:

Sud SE-210 Caravelle

airline:

Austrian Airlines

you will get some nice pix....

cheers
rickster


User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10039 times:

hmmm Miami - maybe the fun part of this thread is that we talk about an airline having such mixed fleet consisting of so many manufacturers and models and types? Show me other operators having so many different aircraft types in one group - I am trying now to list all aircraft types in the OS Group (OS/NG/VO):

actual in use:
Airbus A319/320/321/332/342/343
Fokker F70/F100
Boeing B733/734/736/737/738/763/772
Bombardier DHC8-300 and -400
Canadair CRJ-600

plus still in use (or parked) but in final phase out
MD 81/83/87
and 1 A310-300
So - that's 22 different planes in the fleet !

At least nobody can say taking pictures of OS aircraft is boring Big grin



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

Yeah it is funny how AUA developed. From an all Douglas narrow body fleet to an airline that uses A340-200 and 777-200, A330 and 767 aswell as the Boeing and Airbus narrow bodies and regional aircraft. It is indeed a fun thread !!

Like I said above, hope AUA will show its fellow Star Alliance partners that commanlity is not everything............I love Airbus and Boeing and hope to see both the A350 and the 787 (is that name really offical, yet ??) serving from BBI sometime. If BBI is going to be build and if build right on time....but that is another topic.
P.S. For those who don´t know, BBI will be the future airport of Berlin. Berlin-Brandenburg International !!

@TW741
Do you know what happened to the Tyrolean Dash 7 ? I remember articles at the magazines "Luftfahrt" and "Aero International" about that plane and its special ski tourist flights.It was the only plane that could land on a certain airport - if I recall correctly it was Insbruck airport but I am not sure.
There were always impressive pictures from the take-off there. Is there a replcement for that kind of flights (extrem STOL) ?

The Airbus A310 is parked at Vienna, but I have just seen a picture of it in a magazine pained all white takin off for a check flight. Maybe it will be sold soon and rebuild as a freighter. The fate of nearly all remaining A300/A310 around, just like the 707/DC-8 20 years ago.

[Edited 2005-01-28 17:02:53]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 9685 times:

The Livery looks great.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineRickster From Austria, joined Dec 2000, 653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 9407 times:

I remember those funny times when Austrian Airlines had 9 DC9s named after the nine Austrian provinces, and that was it...., flights only into bigger capital cities and to Jeddah and Riad...., Vienna Airport had about 1,5 Million pax per year, approximately 6 flights per hour during peak times and OS CEO´s (at that time Mr. Heschgl and Mr. Papousek? politically correct one from the red -socialdemocrats- and one from the black -conservative- party) used to say, we don`t need longhault flights - we have Frankfurt and Zurich....



25 TW741 : @Columba the Dash 7's of VO - I really loved to fly those nice birds. The "special airport" you are talking about is Courchevel in the French Alps - V
26 Post contains images Rickster : @TW741, and -oh yes- i know about this swissair connection....followed by red Bammer and black Rehoulka also in typical austrian politically correctne
27 Dexter : Does anyone know if OS are also redoing cabin interiors of the aircraft? If they want to make some of the the 767/777 look like "Austrian" (as opposed
28 Rickster : i guess that was somehow part of the whole plan - was it?
29 Post contains links and images Miamix707 : Well I am back < talking with Arnold's Austrian accent > Here it is: View Large View MediumPhoto © Lars Söderström Seems they've had that same
30 Ka : Dexter: Yes, OS has redone the interior of this 767. The seats are the same, but have the new colors, as have the carpets. It can´t get worse anymore
31 A320FO : Does anyone know if OS are also redoing cabin interiors of the aircraft? Yes, also the cabin has been redesigned, at least colorwise. Actually, OE-LAE
32 TW741 : @A320FO - servus and thanks for the update on the A340 repainting - so "my" rebranding schedule is not accurate/up-to-date... sorry Miamix707 for also
33 A320FO : Just have to correct myself. Not OE-LAK, but OE-LAL will be painted in April. No date has been set for OE-LAK, as it was just repainted two or three y
34 Post contains links Ka : And here are the first interior pictures of the first fully redone OS-longhaul-cabin (old C-Class seats though): http://auaonline.homelinux.com/aua/ph
35 BA319-131 : Yuck! Whats with that green carpet! I'm sorry, but what a total lack of taste, very nasty.
36 ClipperNo1 : What the hell have they been taking/smoking/injecting when designing this cabin??!! The baby-blue cabin deviders just top it. Looks like a very bad LS
37 Rickster : oh my god - please this is not true?!? is it?!?
38 TW741 : oh my god - please this is not true?!? is it?!? it is, unfortunately it is. All I can say on this interior subject: Never let "Designers" have the ult
39 Mikephotos : Happen to be checking the skeds in Sabre for OS VIE-JFK and starting July 5th, looks like OS will be using the B767-300 to JFK on their 2nd flight whi
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