Cgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 346 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1835 times:
A few weeks ago, a few friends of mine took a Skyservice charter to Cancun from my hometown of Saskatoon. Since Skyservice only comes to YXE during the winter months, I thought I'd look into the history of their aircraft to see where it goes during the summer, and also any previous operators. I assumed from the -236 designation that it's an old British Airways machine.
Aircraft was 757-236 C-FUBG. I put that registration in the search engine, and found out the aircraft operated this past summer for First Choice in the UK in an almost identical colour scheme. I assume it operated in Canada during the winter, and the UK during the summer. I know this is common for a lot of charter aircraft. Then I found a pic of it stored in the desert, in the colours of National. Pics in the database showed it operated for National from 1999 to late 2003.
One caption said it was previously registered as N1795B, so I looked into that and it appears to be a boeing test registration. That's where the trail ends. I couldn't find anything about the aircraft operating for BA, or when it was delivered or anything. Am I missing something here? Perhaps someone could help me with this.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 1796 times:
Not looking hard enough then!
Go to http://www.airlinerlist.com, download the B757 file (very small) and unzip it. Open it and look under serial 29942 and it will give you it's complete history, including operator, owner and registration changes.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4573 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
Thanks Rob for plugging our website (airlinerlist.com). BTW the 707/720 is really complete, but I admit some other older jets and props like the DC-8, Comet, F-27, Viscount etc. have a "compressed" history before 1992 though, with only the registrations, enabling to identify old pictures but lacking full earlier service history.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
7e7fca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
This aircraft is leased to SSV by FCA in the winter months (under the Canadian reg of C-FUBG). Its UK reg if G-OOBG, and hence the FCA livery (but replace with an SSV decal).
Before G-OOBH was leased to FCA, it was leased to National Airlines. When the National Airlines lease was up, it was stored in the Mojave desert until FCA could refit/paint it in AUH hence currently FCA's.
The Skyservice lease will soon be ending where it will return to FCA in the summer months.
Captaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1674 times:
Good work James!
C-FUBG is being used in Saskatoon (with frequent stops in Regina and Edmonton) all winter, and the operational aspects are being taken care of by Skyservice. While this means Canadian pilots, flight attendants, and everything else, we do have agreements with First Choice (and My Travel) where British pilots come here for the winter and fly for us, and in the summer, Skyservice pilots go to the UK and fly for them. This helps all involved as Skyservice has more business contracts in the winter, while First Choice and My Travel have more contracts in the summer.
I believe the first two airlines to have such an arrangement between Canada and the UK were Canada 3000 and Air 2000. Canada 3000 was following the Air 2000 model, and they wanted brand new aircraft to lure passengers, and also to hope for reliable service. But in order to do this, the utilization would have to be very high on the aircraft, as lease payments were very expensive. The solution was to find business during slow times, and hence having agreements where the aircraft would operate elsewhere during the slow season. To illustrate using Skyservice, the fleet in the winter is nearly double what it is in the summer.
I hope this provides some additional insight.
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