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B6 To Open 10+ Flight City & Red-Eye City In '05!  
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 14
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

According to David Neeleman, JetBlue's CEO, JetBlue will reportedly open a 10+ flight city this year along with another red-eye city. He said so in the Q404 online webcast so this isn't a rumor - it's a FACT.

Also, according to Neeleman, they still have no clue where they are going to start with E190s. Therefore, I have reason to believe that this new "focus city" will be all-Airbii service when launched this year.

Any guesses? Mine are...

New Focus City: CLT, IAH, BDL, or MIA
New Red Eye City: PDX

Comments are welcome!

JetBluefan1


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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2078 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

Probably Miami, 7 or 8 flights to JFK, couple to IAD, you get the picture.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11675 times:

You guys know better than I do (MAH4546 probably has the answer for this) but where does Miami International Airport have gate space?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33040 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11635 times:

You guys know better than I do (MAH4546 probably has the answer for this) but where does Miami International Airport have gate space?

There is plenty of gate space at MIA. Also, carriers don't own gates at MIA, MIA owns them all, so MIA is at leisure to move airlines around (although, of course, AA and MIA are in bed together, so AA does have influence). They can easily get the old ATA gate in Concourse H.

As for jetBlue at MIA, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and I think it is very realistic. I have heard MIA will launch with three dailies to JFK and a daily to BOS initially, but that would just be the start.

Also, rumour has it to expect a big announcement from jetBlue regarding South Florida on 10 February 2005, which marks jetBlue's 5th Anniversary of FLL-JFK service. Take it with a grain of salt though, it is just a rumour (very reasonable to expect, however).



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11600 times:

MIA has the ATA counter free! And it is still warm, too!


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11589 times:

Dallas/Fort Worth, anyone?

That would be awesome.


User currently offlineF9HNLPLZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11585 times:

COULD IT BE................................... HNL.....?  Smile
Most likely a FLA city.



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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11579 times:

Also, rumour has it to expect a big announcement from jetBlue regarding South Florida on 10 February 2005, which marks jetBlue's 5th Anniversary of FLL-JFK service. Take it with a grain of salt though, it is just a rumour (very reasonable to expect, however).

The rumor is that since February 10th is my 21st birthday Jetblue is giving me a job and letting me fly for free all day wherever I want out of FLL  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11475 times:

My guesses would be DFW, MIA, CUN
Redeye.. PDX



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineGSPITNL From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11440 times:

My Guess would be DFW, MIA and CLT
Redeye will def be PDX

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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11435 times:

New Focus City: CLT, IAH, BDL, or MIA

LMFAO, are you serious, look at what happened with B6 in ATL, CLT and IAH are both fortress hubs. No way, US will squash them and so will CO. They would be stupid to try any of those and the following cities would be stupid too. MIA WTF would they do that, they go to FLL

DFW, DTW, MSP, MEM, IAH, CLT, PHL, LAX, SFO, ORD, etc. Simple, B6 is diggin their grave if they start going into fortress hubs.



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User currently offlineHNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11410 times:

Wouldn't opening MIA and making it a focus city poach their FLL traffic?

Do you think JetBlue may look to a Midwestern or southern city to build a base of ops that could also support feed with the introduction of the 190s?

That would look like DFW to me. But I'm not tapped into the jetBlue rumor mill.

red eye = pdx



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33040 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11402 times:

MIA WTF would they do that, they go to FLL

So what? They serve LGA/JFK, SJC/OAK, LGB/ONT, and even FLL/PBI. They have a huge customer base (2nd only to NYC) in the Miami area, so serving MIA would only further expand the options and require very minimal advertising. MIA will likely launched in 2005. In fact, that and CUN are the most likely.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11383 times:

just to make a counter arguement.. not sure how much weight it will carry.. but B6 did start out at JFK, which was a AA and DL domain... LAS, PHX which is WN and AM domain.. BOS, which is AA, US, DL domain.. SJU which is AA domain.. MCO which is DL, FL domain.. OAK which is WN domain.. B6 doesn't seem to matter who house they enter.. and the only one they pulled out of was ATL.. which is a REAL Megafortress of DL and FL.. the only other truely Megafortress' that I could possibly think of is DTW, IAH (funny.. the SkyTeam fortresses)


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2448 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11354 times:

Burnsie... I have to ask......

when did US learn to squash any competitor?  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineHNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11334 times:

erj170 - I don't think SWA was doing transcons from OAK when B6 entered the market. Certainly not the NYC marketplace.


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11330 times:

Not saying anything about doing transcons.. I'm just saying that B6 doesn't have a problem entering another airline's big fortress and cutting a niche for themselves.. that's all..

BTW.. there wasn't an OAK-BWI or OAK-BNA? Interesting..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlinePDXtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11319 times:

If B6 comes to PDX as the Red-Eye city, that would be great for Oregon. PDX lacks direct northeast flights, besides CO's EWR flight and UA's IAD flight. It's always great to see a new airline serving anywhere (especially PDX).

User currently offlineAirStatDFW From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11267 times:

My guess would be DFW!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy It would be a great midpoint to their route map that they have now. I heard from some people that B6 was in DFW the last 3 weeks looking at Term E with planners on the remodel. I wonder if they are one of the multiple carries who have expressed interest in the $22 million dollar deal. Just half of the gates would give them $11 million. PDX would be my red-eye guess.

AirStatDFW


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11245 times:

I'm going with the following cities:

STL (Focus city)
DFW
IAH
PDX
FNT
YYZ
CLT
MCI
MDW
MSP


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25748 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11162 times:

Miami is considered a separate O&D market from Ft Lauderdale.

Sure a certain percentage of Ft Lauderdale passengers drive up from Miami, however there are still large sections of the Miami population especially ones that live to the south in places like Homestead that do not view what can be lengthy drive to Ft Lauderdale as an option.

Adding Miami service would simply strengthen JetBlue presence in Southern Florida and attract new customers to the airline. The one that needs to worry the most is American as the carrier will see yield erosion continue with JetBlue now flying directly out of one of its hubs.

In regard to rest of the country there are many many markets that are basically virgin territory and could happily absorb JetBlue's service.





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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11066 times:

LMFAO, are you serious,

Yes, I am serious.

look at what happened with B6 in ATL, CLT and IAH are both fortress hubs. No way, US will squash them and so will CO.

ATL was entered with 3 flights. JetBlue specifically said 10+ flights for their new "focus city," which would mean that they'd have much heavier marketing and therefore be able to more easily establish themselves.

Since when has US been able to squash an airline, let alone one of the healthiest ones? WN has taken BWI from US and is making severe inroads at their PHL operation. Not only that, but PIT was just recently announced. No one is scared of US, especially WN or B6.

As far as CO, I agree that they are a more formidable competitor. However, IAH lacks LCC flights to BOS, NYC or IAD, all places that B6 is likely to serve. IMO, IAH has been overlooked by many airlines. Keep in mind that WN no longer serves IAH either.

They would be stupid to try any of those and the following cities would be stupid too.

I don't think my ideas are at all stupid but are instead well though out and make perfect sense for an airline that is looking to expand.

MIA WTF would they do that, they go to FLL

1.) JetBlue's CEO has made it publicly known that they're intersted in MIA; 2.) their second largest customer base is there; 3.) the flights to FLL continue to perform extremely well despite the new additional capacity from LGA; 4.) Who doesn't want to go to Miami?

I don't mind when people disagree but please don't be rude when doing so, thanks...

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11002 times:
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A midwest city would be cool. That would be good place to start E-190 service. The midwest definitely lacks a whole lot of LCC service.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm a little surprised that they don't make OAK a focus city.


User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10986 times:

It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm a little surprised that they don't make OAK a focus city.

JetBlue stopped "announcing" focus cities. Though LGB was the only "announced" focus city, OAK is one along with FLL, BOS, and perhaps IAD depending on what happens with FlyI.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10976 times:

>No way, US will squash them and so will CO. <

US is not in a position to squash anyone and CO runs a much, much tighter ship than does DL. Just look at their financials. CO wont go throwing up more flights at a loss just because B6 enters their market. Beyond that, they don't have FL to contend with as well.



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25 Luv2fly : My guess would be the following for cities being added. CLT GRR IAH PIT MIA Red eye city I really have no idea, have not really thought about it. Focu
26 Flairport : I think it could be MIA: 6X JFK 2X BOS 1X LGB 1X IAD with PDX being the red-eye city.
27 ERJ170 : If MIA.. 6x JFK, 2x BOS, 2x LAS.. If DFW... 6x JFK, 2x OAK, 2x FLL If CUN.. 4x JFK, 3x FLL, 1x OAK, 1x BOS Redeye HAS to be PDX... only other possibil
28 Cactus739 : ERJ170 when you sayd "If CUN.. 4x JFK, 3x FLL" did you mean per week or per day?
29 JetBlueAtJFK : Focus City: MIA-> 6X JFK, 3X BOS, 1X IAD, 2X OAK IAH-> 4X JFK, 2X OAK, 2X FLL, 1X BOS, 1X IAD, 1X LGB (if they pick that for those extra slots) ORF->3
30 ERJ170 : Cactus739.. I could be wrong.. I am just guessing something.. I just don't think that there will be any of these flights to LGB because it is currentl
31 JetBluefan1 : Redeye HAS to be PDX... only other possibilities I can think of is Calgary or Vancouver, BC That's what I initially thought but now I'm also thinking
32 ERJ170 : Well JetBluefan1... what are the choices for the 2nd west ocast hub?
33 Padcrasher : If it's MIA, it will hurt AA alot. I imagine it will finally push AA into developing a LCC brand like Song and Ted. It will also force AA to back back
34 JetBlueAtJFK : So when do you think they will announce the new cities? Will it be on Feb 11th/their anniversary, or another day? jetBlueAtJFK
35 JetBluefan1 : Well JetBluefan1... what are the choices for the 2nd west ocast hub? I didn't know that there was a 2nd west coast hub rumored last year. A choice for
36 Klwright69 : I think it is inevitable that JetBlue will announce IAH-JFK at some point. I think CO will then actually start seriously serving IAH-JFK. But I agree
37 Drerx7 : IAH would be good--except we don't have extra gate space for a focus city operation. Not to mention WN dominating HOU and CO dominating IAH. Rumour ha
38 Lowecur : I think it will be MIA also, but eventually they will have to establish LAX. Also, MDW is not settled as yet. City Airport Council has not given it's
39 Malaysia : B6 should try doing IAD-LAS
40 Jeff G : The problem with PDX is that the locals won't let JetBlue sublet gate and counter space from another airline, even for a single redeye flight. They in
41 ERJ170 : I would still say DFW, MIA, CUN... if not PDX, then RNO[Edited 2005-01-30 03:53:44]
42 NorthwestEWR : What about AUS or SAT to NYC the only non-stop from either is CO's EWR service and they charge $300+ i have flow this route several times and the flig
43 Wedgetail737 : I guess it would be hard for B6 to create a focus/hub out of OAK considering that there not a whole lot of gate space left there, until WN moves all o
44 Wnsocal : SNA...is getting a new airline this year and the next 3 on the list are ATAH (not going 2 happen),JETblue and AIRTRAN.the talk around SNA is B6 is add
45 SprxUSA : Jetg, It must be different, seeing as HA uses DL to handle their flights from PDX. How about FAT for red-eye. That would be different for the folks f
46 Amhilde : The airport folk here have been talking to B6 for a long time about bringing them here to RNO- a couple of years. And yet every year still no B6 and
47 CALMSP : B6 in IAH......no way will not happen...for one no gate space...we will take over WN gate in the A concourse....and we have gone after the LCCs. When
48 Oceanic : I'm still hoping to see B6 at SRQ, but I know that won't happen till the 190's arrive
49 JetBlueAtJFK : Well B6 already goes to TPA so I don't know if they would consider SRQ for a while. Also maybe the redeye is RDU. I think B6 to RDU has come up at lea
50 MAH4546 : If CUN.. 4x JFK, 3x FLL, 1x OAK, 1x BOS Nope...can't fly FLL-CUN, US and NK do. Can't fly NYC-CUN, AA and CO do. Can't fly BOS-CUN, AA and US do. Only
51 ERJ170 : Also maybe the redeye is RDU. I think B6 to RDU has come up at least 1 million times on A.net so maybe... Highly doubtful.. RDU will be a E190 station
52 Icebird757 : You can count out DFW for sure but nobody said anything about AUS. Also we have 4 slots open at LGB starting in May when the LAS flights go away so lo
53 JetBlueAtJFK : Maybe if they have enough medical diversions they might start liking it there and they could start going there. RDU-CUN??Maybe. DFW- That sounds good
54 ERJ170 : I thought RIC was a definite E190 city.. that's what I remember reading or hearing through the rumor mill or something like that.. 190 cities: RIC, OR
55 B6FA4ever : Icebird757... actually the LGB-LAS flights were put back into the reservation system. its still 2 flights a day but they were reinstated. ~B6FA4ever
56 Ordpark : Neeleman says he has 'no clue' as to where they will fly the E-190??? Me thinks he is being just a little coy....you don't go out and buy a bunch of a
57 Icebird757 : The 190s will most likely fly JFK-BOS and JFK-MHT or possibly JFK-BUF, JFK-BTV or JFK-SYR. B6FA4ever.......I looked last week and they had been pulled
58 JetBluefan1 : Neeleman says he has 'no clue' as to where they will fly the E-190??? Me thinks he is being just a little coy....you don't go out and buy a bunch of a
59 AGrayson514 : Whoever said GRR for one I have to say I doubt quite a bit. It would DEFINATELY not get 10 flights a day as we don't even get that many to DTW, especi
60 JetBlueAtJFK : Yea I don't think GRR would work for a hub. Maybe an E-190 red-eye flight. First we have to get a DTW flight...I am still praying for one flight from
61 Flashmeister : I'd be thrilled to see B6 at PDX. I haven't heard that the Port of Portland has changed their ridiculous no-sublet rule, but perhaps they have. Regard
62 Icebird757 : JetBluefan1 - maybe you did not read my post response about the slots: B6FA4ever.......I looked last week and they had been pulled. Interesting.....ma
63 QantasHeavy : I think DFW may be an option. There would be O&D to NYC, Florida and the West Coast... and they could do feed flights if they timed the pushes/slots.
64 USFlyer MSP : It won't be CLT -- no gate space. I vote for PIT, DFW, or SFO. I think the red-eye will be BUR or PDX.
65 ContinentalEWR : Rumor has it JetBlue will fly from JFK to Burbank and back starting this year.
66 Luv2fly : Burbank has already been talked about and the runway would not allow the plane to take off with a full load and all the fuel it would need to make the
67 N62NA : How about EWR to serve the folks west of the Hudson river?
68 Jfklgaflyer : mdw... or do you think southwest would squash them?
69 Luv2fly : Now that TZ and WN are going to code share I really feel that B6 will avoid MDW, I believe that they have there sights on ORD as the airport of choice
70 Icebird757 : Don't look for us to come to the Chicago area until atleast 06 if even that. I would bet MKE if anything for that area.
71 IslipWN : My votes would be: SRQ RDU ISP- major ORF PHF MIA- major EWR- major The reason why I have major next to ISP, EWR, and MIA is beacue I remember all of
72 Burnsie28 : Yea I don't think GRR would work for a hub. Maybe an E-190 red-eye flight. First we have to get a DTW flight...I am still praying for one flight from
73 Flybyguy : I would say IAD is the new focus city... they see how weak I-Air is and will go in for the kill before new, viable competition Virgin America comes ar
74 ERJ170 : Well, the only problem with IAD is that it is already opened as a city.. and According to David Neeleman, JetBlue's CEO, JetBlue will reportedly open
75 PrimetimeDC9 : i like the prospect of B6 opening up a midwest city as a hub for those people who want to travel west or east without having to go to new york first.
76 ERJ170 : If it were me looking for a midwest hub, there would only be one choice for me.. MCI.. it's dead center.. you can reach it with the E190.. and no matt
77 MAH4546 : If it were me looking for a midwest hub, there would only be one choice for me.. MCI.. it's dead center.. you can reach it with the E190.. and no matt
78 Post contains images ERJ170 : Tell them all to call me... 919-624-.... Besides, I said If it were me...
79 Ckfred : MAH4546: You're absolutely right about MCI. In terms of geography, MCI is a great location. But it can't generate enough O&D traffic to make a hub ope
80 JetBlueAtJFK : Burnsie28, I am talking about price, Is it the $150 R/T fares when I book ahead on NK or the $260 R/T. $100 is a difference there. MCI??I don't know i
81 Atrude777 : STL has MUCH more O and D then MCI does, it wouldnt surprise me to hear STL, someone at the other website who works for B6 at LGB says he has kept hea
82 ERJ170 : If CHS is the Charleston that is being spoken of, how is B6 going to make it a focus city. As far as I can tell, CHS only has 1 gate available.. surel
83 Post contains images B6FA4ever : i'm sure the city will be a "big" metro size city. not no small one like ORF, RIC, or the carolinas. more than likely its MIA or similar in size espec
84 IslipWN : ORF is not small at all. If anything, I would say that it is really big.
85 JetBlueAtJFK : ORF is big but I think he means like really big like Miami or Dallas. ORF does serve alot of people but I think that is more of an E-190 city not a hu
86 Post contains links AkjetBlue : I checked out a few cities on http://www.FareMeasure.com Here are a few guesses: -RDU with 1258 Daily NYC customers, a strong base for a few flights t
87 FA4B6 : I REALLY hope its MIA with flights to JFK, BOS, IAD. I think MIA makes sense for us and there seems to be room and it seems like a natural next step f
88 Luv2fly : I really feel it will not be PDX I could see TUS as a red eye as I remember reading that CO was dropping its TUS to EWR nonstop, not sure when that ta
89 Lowecur : Jetblue pilot on another board is hinting that EWR is the next new city.
90 Post contains links JetBlueAtJFK : Well the focus city is BOS: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1937616/ Don't know the red-eye city yet. jetBlueAtJFK
91 FLAIRPORT : Jetblue pilot on another board is hinting that EWR is the next new city. Would be nice, but I don't think it will happen, nore ISP or BDL, until there
92 Post contains images Lightsaber : 10+ a day to start? B6 is definitely entering someone else's territory. Somewhere where they have to make a presence instantly. My guesses? In order:
93 Lowecur : This is from the conference at FLL when they started LGA in Sept 04. ''There are a couple of other New York-area airports that would like to have serv
94 Flack4ric : ERJ170, a few notes regarding your 30Jan post: In the B Concourse, RIC has four readily-available gates: B7/B9/B10 & B6. $1.7 million support funding
95 ERJ170 : Thanks Flack4ric.. I shall add that to my information...
96 FA4B6 : Rumor had it that an announcement was supposed to be made today, to celebrate FLL's 5-year anniversary. Nothing yet?
97 ERJ170 : Perhaps they are waiting for market to close before they announce anything...
98 JetBlueAtJFK : So they are having 2 different big cities b/c BOS was already announced as a "focus" (kind of). That would be awesome, 2 new big ones. jetBlueAtJFK Ha
99 FA4B6 : So they are having 2 different big cities b/c BOS was already announced as a "focus" (kind of). That would be awesome, 2 new big ones. jetBlueAtJFK Ha
100 JetBlueAtJFK : MIA is perfect for them. They really should go there and have like 6X JFK, 4X BOS, 2X IAD, and maybe have a flight to OAK or something along those lin
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