ViasaMSY From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 90 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4036 times:
It is referred to as "Eurowhite" but the first airline with an all white livery as far as I remember was PANAM in the mid 80s. Did PANAM started the all white livery or another airline?
Lono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4008 times:
Jcded From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3989 times:
If I remember correctly I believe it was Air France (hence the Euro since many european airlines followed suit) it was first revelaed when Concorde went into service for them.
ViasaMSY From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3880 times:
Thanks! I was living in CCS at the time that PA changed its livery and it looked very nice; so common these days that it has become quite boring IMO. BTW Dtwcklipper interesting picture with the AA 747-100 in the background.
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Dc8jet From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3844 times:
I think by all white he means no stripe on the fuselage. Western did have an all white fuselage but it had a red stripe.
Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3139 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3720 times:
My 1st thought was Air France, but I suppose "technically" AirWest was the 1st "Eurowhite" liverysince that was back in the 60s, and AF came out with theirs later on.
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SprxUSA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3644 times:
So I guess it should be called "AirWest white"!
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Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4557 posts, RR: 17 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3267 times:
Aaaaah, you youngsters. "Eurowhite" as in "European"? As in French? As in... (drumroll please) ... UTA? Union de Transport Aeriens? How does 1977 for a full-white body and blue tail strike you? (There are earlier white ones at UTA, but I remember watching the UTA Dc10s roll past me at CDG in -- eeek -- 1977.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4024 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3154 times:
Wow - the VW Rabbit and the Fiat in this picture almost made me think this was Europe in 1977, not Long Beach!
Sorry to get off topic but is this DC-10 still flying?
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3075 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3127 times:
Okay guys, this one is really really simple.
THE WINNER IS......
AND that is the reason it is called "eurowhite" and not American white or Asian white etc etc.
Now.... in order to be euro white, the aircrafts WHOLE body must be white.
No grey belly's, or metal bellys, even if it is only a small amount at the very bottom. SO that discredits company's like Air West and Texas international from being the first (and it means company's like CO, DL and Lufthansa don't have eurowhite today either)
The eurowhite scheme was introduced by Air France just before the commencement of Supersonic concorde flights (and hence those lovely white delta wings) and was first flown on the Airbus A300-B2. The first flight was from CDG to LHR, and hence at the time, the press coined the term Eurowhite.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3093 times:
I have to agree with Lufthansa. When reading the title of this thread I immediately was thinking of Air France, as they were the first airline that introduced an all-white fuselage. This is why they are called "euro-white".
FlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3058 times:
UTA has billboard titles and the blue stripe at the back so surley that counts against it being Euro-White.
I too think it would be Air France but then again I wasn't around in the 60's and '70s
Phil
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Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3075 posts, RR: 10 Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3043 times:
NumberTwelve
Have a good look at the UTA scheme.... I don't think you've looked closely enough at it. For instance, this picture was taken in 1978, clearly showing a metal bottom (grey in some instances) making this NOT a eurowhite scheme....sure, they didn't have a cheatline, but they weren't a eurowhite scheme. ( I might point out that there were electra's and DC-6's that had white tops to help keep the cabin cooler bright sunlight. )
BALandorLivery From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 358 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3041 times:
Didn't they have to make the concorde all white so it could reflect more heat and therefore operate at Mach 2.0
Any other colour and the skin would heat up too much, thats why the blue pepsi concorde was limited to Mach 1.7
Is this why Air France went all white with the rest of the fleet?
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3075 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3027 times:
BAL
YES you're right, I had forgotten totally about!!!!!! Which is exactly why they introduced the Scheme right before the Concorde flights started!!!!!!!!
Yes...it was all about Supersonic glory, The space-aged supersonic seventies!
25 Jaysit: I'd still say Indian Airlines. In spite of the grey belly, it had a predominantly white fuselage, without any of the characteristic embellishments ass
26 BALandorLivery: Thought so. Personally I like Air France's livery, don't think it needs to be changed.
27 ViasaMSY: I clearly remember in the 70's the AF Concorde performing a low altitude flight over CCS wearing an all white livery with the characteristic AF black
28 Charvett: Dear ViasaMSY: I was at the airport at that time; 6years old. My father flew for LAV. Then the Concorde was parked beside a VIASA DC-8 at the old term
29 Propulsion: BALandorLivery: 'Personally I like Air France's livery, don't think it needs to be changed.' Yes it is nice but only if they would give their fleet a
31 Charvett: Great 787!! As far some friends tell me (I'm also an airline employee)... we need to have in mind the cost of painting an airliner ($$$$$$$$$$$$$). Th
32 PA101: Well, if you want an allwhite fuselage, AF is probably the winner. However, to me, all these white birds with more or less grey on the bottom are at l
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