Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 3029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4123 times:
You just answered most of your own questions.
I have to imagine the the flight has to take slight payload restriction off the short-runway as it is only 2,180 meters long and the flight approx. 6 hour eastbound. I am sure AA wants the departure slots from the longer runway, that being the main hold-up.
Aaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
AA filed with the DOT to retain the authority to fly HNL-NRT. The DOT did grant AA an extension in while AA works at getting a favorable slot at NRT. The extension comes with a caveat though - AA must start the service by Dec '05, or thus lose the authority.
With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 28516 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
>I have to imagine the the flight has to take slight payload restriction off the short-runway as it is only 2,180 meters long and the flight approx. 6 hour eastbound.<
A 763 on the route would not be a problem. DL takes off from BUR and flies to ATL non-stop from a runway less than 2100m, that slopes uphill and requires noise abatement. The 767 actually has rather good take off performance. Add that to the fact that is can go CDG-LAX unrestricted (12 hours) and there would be no need here.
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Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3160 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3936 times:
Seems like the short runway @ NRT would be used for landings too. I've seen, and been on a fully loaded 763 take-off from OGG (7000 foot runway). It would be a good guess that a loaded 763 will make it off NRT's short runway, if not they'll be sensible enough to request the main runway.
I, for one, would love to see an AA 763 (or even a 772) in the morning hours @ HNL.
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HNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3888 times:
What about operating outside the normal rush of Japan flights from Honolulu which depart from 8 to about 2 pm. What about a red eye from Honolulu - one that would get to NRT right at the lift of the curfew (6am??)? What time would that have to depart HNL?
Seems like AA could easily find slots at that time, AND offer an alternative to the UA, JL, JO, NW, CI, and Air Japan flights.