Clipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 685 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15387 times:
Awesome film. That looks like an approach to 31 with a strong left base over Shea Stadium. If you look closely, you'll see a departure lifting off the far end of the runway. What the arrival was doing was completing a "S" turn for spacing so that there wouldn't be 2 a/c on the same runway at the same time. I've seen the same thing at DCA on 18 which is a hell of an approach without the additional turns.
TWAMD-80 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1006 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12659 times:
That was a cool video - hats off to Phil. It's amazing that the pilot was able to still make the landing, although it didn't look to be especially soft. The Expressway Visual to 31 is a hell of an approach. I got to go for a ride on the Expressway Visual last June on one of AA's MD-80's and it was awesome. We didn't have to do any S-turns but the pilot sure banked the airplane over to get it onto the final approach course.
Two A-4's, left ten o'clock level continue left turn!
GothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12595 times:
By no means is this a normal landing for Expressway Visual 31. Generally, landing aircraft are lined up for finals at least a mile from the threshold, but as my friend Phil mentions in the description (which you can't see in the links above):
This plane coming in on Expressway Visual 31 was instructed to execute an S-turn due to departing traffic, and he came in very off-center. One of my wildest clips, for a second I didn't think he was going to make it.
You can visit Phil's site at www.nycaviation.com for more nice videos and NYC-area spotting info.
BigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8704 times:
Glad you all enjoyed my clip. Heck, I've had that posted in an old aviaiton newsletter i ran and once on the forusm here and it never got attention. Last I looked it had over 4,500 views on flightlevel350.com. lol
Just to clarify, this is NOT a normal approach to 31. I've seen many crosswind landings, but never like that. That approach was crazy. In more detail:
At about the 3 second mark, planes are usually coming in straight at me already. In fact, they often come in if not directly over my head, a little to the left, this plane was on the right side. Because I was expecting him to be on the left side, I was facing the wrong way and at the 20 second mark, you see a blatant shake which is me turning my body around to face the plane.
I got more and more nervous as he came in, and I was waiting for him to called missed and try again but he just kept going. I wasn't using a tripod or anything, and at one point I really thought I was about to see a crash and I wanted to keep it as steady as I could, no shakes from being shocked, so the FAA could use my footage for their investigation. That's how concerned I was. lol A bit much I know.
I can only imagine what it was like to be a passenger on that flight. Wow.
I'd also like to thank everyone for mentioning my website. I have other videos on there, and a lot more to come, many to flightlevel350.com also.
ViasaMSY From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8118 times:
Is this approach similar to the river visual at DCA?
I have landed in DCA once and was pretty amazing. I congratulated the pilots when about to leave the a/c and the Captain told me: " The closest you will get to landing on an a/c carrier".