EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4968 posts, RR: 50 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4158 times:
I wish (that's all it is... wishful thinking) that AeroLitoral, soon to be merged into AeroCaribe and, potentially renamed, would change its orders and options for 145's to 170's.
Lightsaber From United States, joined Jan 2005, 5138 posts, RR: 86 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4084 times:
AA negotiated to allow the E170 to have a weight exemption to qualify as a 70 seater for Eagle. Alas, they won't be ordering for months. But when they do, the order should be large (say for 50).
For NW, I see an order that is 50% E170's (regional partner) and 50% E190's (mainline) to replace some DC-9s. I agree with Amtrackguy's assessment that 33% to 50% of the remaining DC-9's will be replaced by A319's.
Also, I see CO ordering 50 or so if the pilots accept a higher count of 70 seaters.
Some DL express carrier (if DL can get more 70 seaters allowed).
Anyone know of a European airline that's interested? While I like the E-jets, I'm not seeing much of an Asian market (excluding possibly JET in India).
It seems like the market has voted for range over CASM (170 vs. 175, 190 vs. 195).
DeltaFFinDFW From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1248 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
Comair's new CEO has already stated that if they get the wage freezes they are asking for, they will be in line for new routes flown by 170s. Can't find the article now, but it was in the Cinci. Enquirer.
A330323X From United States, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4019 times:
US will shortly be placing an order for the EMB-190, probably for 60 of them (as many as they are permitted to operate), probably converting some of their EMB-170 orders into the larger type in the process.
(US will also be converting most if not all of their 30-some remaining CRJ-700 orders into CRJ-900 orders, as already permitted under their contract with Bombardier.)
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
FCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3963 times:
PPVRA
The case of Air France getting EMB170/190s (in fact not AF , but the franchise carriers) is a little bit complex and is tied to the new fighter that the Brasilian AF is seeking to acquire.
The front runners for this competition is the SU27 (Russia) and the Mirage2000 (France).
In exchange for the choice of the Russian fighter by Brasil , it is said that Aeroflot will buy EMB170/190s.Actually they are searching for a plane in this category.
If Brasil decides to go ahead with the Mirage2000 , then the AF franchise partners will buy EMB170/190s.If not , surely they will turn to CRJ900s.
What i can know now , is that these AF franchise partners have stopped negociations with Canadair , and surely are waiting for the selection of the Brasilian AF.They are not in hurry.
So , obviously another political story............
But do not be afraid , surely these new Embraer planes will sell very well.
Do you know something about the planned purchase of these planes by TAM?
Once they were interested by these planes (and if i well remember they signed a MOU........what's the value ?) and the A318.
I know brasilian airlines are struggling to survive , and thus maybe it's not time for them to purchase new planes , but TAM seems to be this with the better health.
Hardiwv From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 7575 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3939 times:
you know something about the planned purchase of these planes by TAM?
TAM was deciding between Airbus and Embraer to replace its fleet of F-100 (at one time TAM had the biggest fleet of F-100 in the world). A decision was made to replace the F-100s with Airbuses.
now brasilian airlines are struggling to survive , and thus maybe it's not time for them to purchase new planes , but TAM seems to be this with the better health.
TAM and GOL are both in good financial health. In 2004 GOL placed an order of 49 B737-800s, and now has the biggest fleet of 737NG in LatAm. I expect GOL' s Beoing-based fleet to expand rapidly, while TAM will continue with its strategic growth probably make some fresh orders of Airbuses in 2005.
Pdpsol From United States, joined Feb 2004, 811 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3622 times:
FCKC,
I am very familiar with political meddling in the aviation industry and do not want to appear naive, but what do AF's regional franchise partners have to do with a Brazilian fighter procurement decision? Yes, I know Dassault has partnered with Embraer to offer the F2000BR for the FX-BR contract and I know Dassault is a small shareholder in Embraer.
But, aren't AF's regional affiliates independent private companies? Don't they make capital investment decisions on their own, without any influence by the French government. An analogy would be, say, Republic [franchise carrier for US, DL and UA here in the US] deciding on whether to purchase the E170/190 based on whether Lockheed's F16 won the FX-BR contract. This is absurd, to say the least! Or, SK or BA deciding on the E170/190 based on whether the Bae/SAAB Gripen was chosen!
How can the French government possibly influence an independent capital investment decision made by a private enterprise? Why would private companies allow the State to boss them around?
Erikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 20 Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3528 times:
By top of mind, some for CO, AA, NW more to US UA DL(with republic) probably LH will get some, and Virgin Blue too.
Heck, when B6 get´s theirs why not say Ryanair and some LCC´s in Europe.
Think B6 will teach the LCC a new lesson, to be profitable with a 2 type fleet.
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Fourstripe From United States, joined Dec 2003, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
If AA purchases as EMB 190, it will be for Eagle, not AA. Well... sort of. It will be an Eagle painted aircraft with all coach seating but operated by AA crews. This will keep the pilots' unions happy. Right now they are not happy at all with all of the AA flowbacks that Eagle is getting. With these new Embraers, they can let mainline AA fly the larger jets for Eagle while keeping the original routes for themselves.
-fourstripe
AA all the way!!!
26 Erikwilliam: N1120A: But isn´t true that easyjet has a 2 fleet type cause they´r changing the fleet from 737´s to A-320´s and as the A-320´s come in the 737´
27 Lowecur: Republic(Chautauqua) just did another public offering of 6M shares @12.50 today. After the last public offering on 1/13/05 they made the purchase of 1
28 FCKC: Pdpsol Well well , you are not naive , you are very logical As soon as these AF franchise partners are private airlines , effectively it is logical to
29 ATWZW170: I wouldn't be surprised if Air Wisconsin ordered them if the RFP goes through. I think we are looking for a different fleet mix and a cheaper aircraft
30 Pdpsol: FCKC, Thanks for your response; I can CLEARLY see how regionals' affiliation with AF could be damaged should one of them 'piss off' the government. BU
31 PPVRA: Hey guys! Virgin Blue livery would look great in the EMBs! And it would be the first Embraer aircraft to be based in aussie territory! Or are there ot
32 Hardiwv: are there other E110s or E120s in Australia? There are many E110s and E120s operating in Australia, which has one of the biggest fleet of regional tur
33 F4F3a: I can see FLYBE ordering the 170/190 to replace their aging 146 fleet. http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00
34 FCKC: PPVRA I read somewhere that the decision by the Brasilian AF has been delayed again!!!!! ..............till end of this yaer or the beginning of next
35 Gg190: I think the 170/190 would be good for BA. Some of their 146 -100's & -200's must getting on a bit now.
36 Isitsafenow: And why not Southwest? Its not a secret that Herb and the gang are looking at an RJ like the rest of the carriers on the planet. An Em190 or Bombardie
37 EMBQA: If AA purchases as EMB 190, it will be for Eagle, not AA. Well... sort of. It will be an Eagle painted aircraft with all coach seating but operated by
38 FlyHoss: Erikwilliam, Frontier has A-318´s and CRJ-700, is that correct or....? Horizon operates the CRJ's for Frontier.
39 MQrampBOS: If AA purchases as EMB 190, it will be for Eagle, not AA. Well... sort of. It will be an Eagle painted aircraft with all coach seating but operated by
40 PSU.DTW.SCE: In reality, none of the US network carriers are close to placing an order for the E170/E190. There are simply too many issues that need to be sorted o
41 F4f3a: Does anyone know if the 170/190 has or meets the performance and noise levels to fly into london city?
42 Hardiwv: Does anyone know if the 170/190 has or meets the performance and noise levels to fly into london city? Luxemburg's flag carrier, Luxair, is currently
43 A330323X: In reality, none of the US network carriers are close to placing an order for the E170/E190. There are simply too many issues that need to be sorted o
44 Columba: According to the weekly news magazine "Focus" here in Germany Lufthansa seems to be interested in the "brazilian export star" as they call it in that
45 PPVRA: EMB series in LH colors would be a dream come true! Here is an image of a 170 in LH colors: http://www.jetsite.com.br/fotos/D-AEIY_LUFTHANSA.jpg FCKC,
46 Planemaker: Comair's new CEO has already stated that if they get the wage freezes they are asking for, they will be in line for new routes flown by 170s. Can't fi
47 CORULEZ05: I would love to see Continental Express ordering these jets and putting them on their flights to Mexico and replace all of those embraer jets. I love
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