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JetBlue Plans New Focus City At BOS  
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5988 times:

http://investor.jetblue.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=JBLU&script=410&layout=-6&item_id=669426


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5869 times:

Nice. Delta can't be happy about this...


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User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Score one for jetBlue! Now all they have to do is start BOS-JFK and get those E190s and start service IND-JFK and they'll have all my business... as soon as i get enough WorldPerks Miles to use them all.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineEi2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

This will be very interesting in terms of the new routes they will offer - SEA, SLC, MSY would be nice, maybe JetBlue could make a nice killing also on Syracuse, Buffalo and Rochester with their ERJ's if US cuts them services in the future. If anything they are now nicely placed to take over some established routes if US did suffer the unmentionable....

coolbeans B6!



Next Flight: BOS-SFO (B6), OAK-KOA (AK), KOA-OGG (YV), OGG-HNL (HA), HNL-ATL-BOS (DL)
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5583 times:

Are B6's transcons more profitable than the Florida runs?


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User currently offlineN801NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

Does anyone know if Northwest will resume using E1A & E1B?

The Boston Globe article two days ago at least gave the impression that transcon's are more profitable as the A320 is being used to the potential of its range. But I could be wrong.


User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2971 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5413 times:

Are B6's transcons more profitable than the Florida runs?

It obviously depends. B6 sees better loads between BOS and FL, so I'd assume that they are more profitable (judging on the fact that the transcons don't see much higher fares anyway).

Congrats to both BOS and B6. 11 gates?! That's how many gates JetBlue has at JFK as of right now and they have shown that they can operate 110+ flights from that terminal. So that basically means that B6 is looking at 100+ flights from BOS. Cool.

My bets for the next routes from BOS are: PBI, SJU, SMF. It'll also be nice to see them expand with the E190s out of BOS.

BTW, I've never been to BOS. Is Terminal C in bad shape right now or something? According to the press release they'll be putting in $9 million dollars for renovations. I wonder what these renovations will include...hopefully they make it a "blue world" such as T6 at JFK.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5385 times:

GREAT NEWS! I predicted this in another post about 2 days ago. I knew a BOS focus city was on it's way. What other airlines operate out of Terminal C?

jetBlueAtJFK



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5360 times:

N/M answered myself:
Air Canada Jazz (except int’l arrivals)
Cape Air
Continental
Delta Air Lines
Delta Connection / Atlantic Coast
Delta Connection / Comair
Midwest
Song
United
United Express / Atlantic Coast

But who is going to leave to make room for them? Delta is but who else.


B6JFK



When You Know jetBlue, You Know Better
User currently offlineAzul320 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5337 times:

They should have started a larger focus city at OAK instead of BOS
Just my $0.02.



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User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5328 times:

Would this be considered a setback for Southwest, since JetBlue will become the biggest LCC at Logan? Or is Boston not really relevent to Southwests plans?

User currently offlineAzul320 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

Boston and Manchester are two different cities.


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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5304 times:

Boston's not really relevant. WN have chosen to fly out of PVD and MHT (each about 75 minutes from Boston, depending on traffic). WN will be operating out of Boston on a codeshare basis with TZ. However, B6 have made quite a splash here in Boston and I think many people that were starting to go to MHT and PVD for lower fares have started coming back to BOS. Even with business traffic returning, BOS had a rise of like 12% (or 4 million people) over 2003 traffic levels. That traffic had to come from somewhere. I think as long as B6 don't pull a PeoplExpress on us and grow too fast, they will be an integral part of BOS's growth in the coming years.

BTW, the disclaimer at the end of the press release has to be one of the most interesting I've ever seen.

"This press release contains statements of a forward-looking nature, which represent our management's beliefs and assumptions concerning future events. Forward-looking statements involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions and are based on information currently available to us. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements due to many factors, including without limitation, potential hostilities in the Middle East or other regions, our ability to implement our growth strategy and our dependence on the New York market, our fixed obligations and our limited operating history, seasonal fluctuations in our operating results, increases in maintenance costs, fuel prices and interest rates, our competitive environment, our reliance on sole suppliers, government regulation, our failure to properly integrate LiveTV or enforce its patents, our ability to hire qualified personnel, the loss of key personnel and potential problems with our workforce including work stoppages, and continuing changes in the airline industry following the September 11th terrorist attacks and the increased risk of future attacks, the potential risks with the delivery, placing into service and integration into our operations of the EMBRAER 190 aircraft as well as the potential liability relating to our handling of customer data. Additional information concerning these and other factors is contained in the Company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including but not limited to, the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K and Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release."  Smile

LH423



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

JetBlueAtJFK,

Atlantic Coast Airlines (ACA) has since become Independence Air, moved to Terminal B; and, hence, no longer flies for Delta Connection and United Express.

Apparently, Massport still needs to update its Terminal C listings. I'm assuming that Air Wisconsin is now doing the United Express flights out of BOS.

But who is going to leave to make room for them? Delta is but who else.

Song will probably move along with Delta & ComAir to the new Terminal A.

Presently, Delta, ComAir & Song occupy 10 Terminal C gates (plus 2 at B); so for one more gate, I think YX would be the likely candidate to be relocated to either one of DL's current B gates or to one of B6's current E gates.

[Edited 2005-02-02 21:42:31]


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User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5282 times:

I certainly hope CO goes back to Terminal A along with Delta and her regional/low-cost partners.

I miss Terminal A. Terminal C just plain sucks. Drab, boring, and looooong security lines at times.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5256 times:

Or is Boston not really relevent to Southwests plans?

Southwest has been drawing Boston-area pax to Providence, RI and Manchester, NH.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Ahhhh sookey-sookey now.. I"m seeing some possible routes...

RDU-JFK, BOS, FLL.. seems like 3 solid destinations to me... also seems to me that RDU will be offering B6 up to 3 gates here..



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

BTW.. what was the new red-eye? was that not announced or was it the SJC?


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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

so for one more gate, I think YX would be the likely candidate to be relocated to either one of DL's current B gates or to one of B6's current E gates.
It is possible that YX shares a gate with another airline. Also, I do believe CO is relocating to A. Air Canada Jazz could relocate to E though, that'd be interesting.



Nice to see that jetBlue can be New York's airline AND Boston's airline! Not many NY based companies can do that! I'd speculate that this focus operation and a few breaks from other airlines (USAirways) would possibly bring a shuttle service to IAD, LGA, and maybe JFK. Also, I think PBI, SMF, SLC, SEA, and MSY as possible cnadidates as well as STI, SJU, and BQN and MAYBE PHX.

The E190's also will have increased range and can land at virtually any commercial airport, so I'd think BUF and ROC and maybe SYR would be in the mix from BOS and some cities win the midwest might also get service to BOS and JFK at the same time. This is great news for B6 and I look foward to more.


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5175 times:

What do you mean by red-eye SJC, like from BOS or... I think they meant they were opening up a new city, not a city that is already served. I hope that isn't it because I want a new city...maybe RDU! Hopefully after all of B6's work on TC at BOS it won't be so "Drab, boring,...". The security lines I don't think they can fix because that isn't theirs to fix, but the terminal should be nicer once B6 is in and DL is out.

B6JFK



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6756 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5154 times:

Nah.. what I was saying is that I thought they were going to open a new 10+ focus city and a new red-eye.. I saw that the SJC was starting May 3.. thought if it was the new red-eye.. or if it was/is going to be a new red-eye announced soon...


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User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

looking forward to the move from Term E to Term C. i'm sure the red-eye city everyone is talking about is gonna be a brand new city.

in regrads to Term C...(that is if anyone is familiar w/ that terminal) does it have immigration/customs to handle international passengers? if so...there could be a chance to open up STI to BOS.

also can't wait for BOS-SJC/LAS to start. i'm sure the LAS flights will do really well. it'll be interesting to see what the flights will be like (party wise). i loved working the JFK-LAS flights cause of all the energy you feel from everyone getting ready to blow lots of money at the casino's and all the excitment!

can't wait to see what our route map will look like at the end of '05 w/ all the planned "connecting the dots" we are gonna be doing. hopefully by then our route map will be interactive like Airtran or WN's...

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineBOSSAN From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5021 times:

N801NW, Northwest holds a long-term lease (expiring in 2010 IIRC) on preferential terms on E1A and E1B. They were strong-armed by Massport into subleasing those gates to jetBlue. My guess is that the leases are inexpensive enough that once Massport has free gates available Northwest will go back to operating those two gates itself rather than lease them out again. The tarmac has looked reasonably crowded with the regional jets from MKE, MEM and IND and only 3 gates.

JetBluefan1, Terminal C isn't dilapidated, but it has not had a gut renovation in the 30 years or so that it has been open. (I found a picture dated in the mid-70s looking along the length of the TWA ticket counter (where Continental's is now) with a decorative mirror array on a wall in the background, and those mirrors are still there.) I'm guessing jetBlue will spend the money on new ticket counters and on freshening up their pier beyond security as a branding measure.

B6FA4ever, Terminal C does not have customs; all inbound international flights (with the exception of pre-cleared Canadian flights) arrive at Terminal E where passengers are processed, and are towed empty to their departure terminal for boarding. Two other FISes are in limbo; Terminal A was designed to hold one, but the last I'd read Massport refused to operate it, and American's shelved plans to rebuild its half of Terminal B included an FIS.


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

There is no customs in Terminal C. AF currently has to arrive at the E terminal, and tow to C for the departure. I don't think we'll see international from BOS on B6


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User currently offlineMQrampBOS From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

AF no longer departs from Terminal C. DL handles the inbound and outbound at Terminal E now. Haven't heard if AF is going to Terminal A with them, but there's always a possibility.


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25 LH423 : No, with all the hassle and money spent on getting AF in terminal E, people there have told me that there is no chance of getting them to move to A. F
26 ChrisNH : The thought by some is that JetBlue in Boston is attracting some of the business back from MHT and PVD. Well, keep this in mind: there's more to an ai
27 ERJ170 : OMG.. Logan is horrible.. I flew into BOS last year.. and it took me about 30 minutes just to get from the departure curb to Ted Williams Tunnel.. the
28 PSU.DTW.SCE : Well it looks like we know where a bunch of E-190's will be going in the future.
29 BOSSAN : Chris in NH, I agree that people choose airports based on convenience as well as fares. MHT has grown rapidly on the basis of Southwest's service, but
30 LH423 : No, no one is saying that now with more options of LCCs at BOS suddenly no one will want to use PVD or MHT. But the fact is, while BOS grew at an aver
31 Post contains images Lightsaber : Did any one else notice the slow phase in rate of the gates? It looks like B6 is going to expand at BOS at a very metered pace. Jumping from 2 to 6 ga
32 Gift4tbone : About the big dig.....I drive from rhode island to Wakefield, mass, (about 10-15 miles north of boston) every week, and The traffic is getting better.
33 ERJ170 : Hey BOSSAN, Just to clarify, my problem wasn't actually with the big dig.. my problem was actually getting out the airport.. there was just a bottlene
34 LH423 : ERI170: The tunnels and Tobin Bridge are run by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, not Massport. So Massport really has no say on the matter. I hav
35 ERJ170 : LH423.. perhaps I am saying something wrong.. I'm not sure.. but the problem was not with the Ted Williams Tunnel.. Like I said, paying and getting th
36 Airbazar : People forget one thing: MHT and PVD are regional airports while BOS is one of the top 10 busiest airports in the country (or thereabout). Comparing o
37 PHLBOS : Also, for the record, it's not just jetBlue. It's jetBlue, Independence, ATA, Song, as well as America West, Cayman Airways, Aeromexico, American, US
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