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Aeroflot's Future  
User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 861 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2086 times:

What do you think will happen to the airline in the upcoming years? Do you think that it's new style and theme, and soon to be new logo, will change westerner's fears of flying it. Do you forsee strong growth and development as well? What do you think?


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8426 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2068 times:
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I think the future is pretty bright to be honest.

I actually really want to fly them,just to see how they perform vs other carriers such as AA,US,BA,AY etc.

Since they are 'Aeroflot', I think we have lower expectations than the carriers we are used to.

If I don't need to do a point/mileage run for my BA Silver card,I might give them a shot next time I go to NRT or PEK, though it will be business, don't like doing 'Y' longhaul anymore.

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Mark



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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2067 times:

They even don't want to grow like foolish, they want to market themselves as quality carrier with normal legacy fares for connections to and from Russia.

If they succeed one day to end the SVO misery, I see them well positioned in their niche as Russian flag carrier and maybe even one day as member of SkyTeam or another alliance.

The have issues to work on, no doubt, by I see them on a good way.

A350



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User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2052 times:

Well do you think they'll be able to complete a Sheremetyevo 3 which will allow passengers not to get a transfer visa as well as join skyteam by the end of this year? Will their joining skyteam change them as an airline? Will their pax numbers increase?


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2045 times:

There future depends a lot to the prospect of Russia. Russia is growing in recent times and economy had good growing numbers. If Putin doesn't keep on destroying faith in the Russian economy (like he did by his reacting in the Yukos case) and oil and gaz prices stay at their high level, Aeroflot has a prosperous future.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

I think Aeroflot will always be around. Russia has a long tradition of air service as well as an aircraft industry, and Aeroflot is a very historic and proud name.

That doesn't mean that it should become a national carrier propped up by the state - Aeroflot would be wise to do code-sharing and join one of the global alliances (isn't the plan for them to join SkyTeam?), while also focusing on their domestic routes.

It would probably be a good idea to move all operations (temporarily) to DMD while SVO undergoes a MASSIVE overhaul (hopefully from the ground-up!!) to rid itself of the Soviet style architecture and inefficiency it is permanently associated with.

By the way, I LOVE the new Aeroflot colors - in this day and age of "EuroWhite" on everything, their's is a breath of fresh air!!



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2993 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Hjulicher,
Aeroflot is not changing their logo. They went through a color scheme change and the logo was already painted on. They were deciding the new logo a while back, but came to a conclusion that keeping the old logo will be a wise idea.


User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Oh, I though that I read somewhere that it was time to change to logo because of its ties to its communisitc era, but couldn't find an appropriate logo, and thus decided to keep what they have currently, but I didn't think that it was defenite. Though I could be wrong.


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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 655 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

This brings me dircetly to a question: Are there any news about the fate of Aeroflot´s B777s?? When do the leases really end - and will they be extended?? If yes, why aren´t they repainted into their new c/s yet??

They were alot of rumors about half a year ago, but it got quiet ever since...

Thanks for any advice,

KA.



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5597 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Promoting itself as a "quality carrier" and trying really hard to get rid of the image of dangerous Soviet airline while keeping its old logo, which is a symbol of the most murderous and evil regime known to man is quite schizophrenic approach.
A "wise idea" would be to finally realize that the Evil Empire aka USSR is no more and (hopefully) ain't doming back.


User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Has anyone flown Aeroflot? I've seen their 777 leave SFO a few times and I will say that I am very curious about their 777 international accomodations - cabin style, layout, comfort, food, appearance of FA's, etc? Does anyone know.

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

I am quite dissapointed flying Aeroflot, why?? cause I want russian jets! lol I keep going on Western ones 767 and A320  Smile naah they are a great airline  Smile


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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

I've flown them from LHR to Beijing and Hong Kong in J class, and it was as good as anyother flight on that route. very pretty Russian girls on-board, good Vodka and nice crew. What more do you want??

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

I flew with them in 1988 , CDG-SVO-NRT.
CDG-SVO with a TU154.It was like in a bus !!!!!
SVO-NRT with an ILL62.Great plane , very smooth , a little bit long for being airborne and for climbing.
Service was nice and PNCs were friendly.Do not speak of PTV here.
A great memory.


User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

NEW LOGO? what would it look like if they did go through it anyone know?

I much prefer the old one as seen on this shirt

http://www.bornintheussr.com/t099.jpg



If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2993 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Jfrworld,
Yes I have flown Aeroflot many many times. They are a very professional airline, like most European carriers. I have flown their 777 about twice a year for the last 5 years. Its an amazing aircraft, and suited Aeroflot well on the SFO and JFK flights. As to when the lease ends I'm not really sure, that's a good question. The only complaint I might have about Aeroflot and the 777 is the 2-5-2 configuration in economy. It makes it extremely uncomfortable for the person sitting in the middle of the 5 segment!!!

L410Turbolet,
I don't want to start arguing like we did before, but I'm just curious. Why do you only look at the downside of the USSR?? I don't understand that. Yes, I agree it was a time of sorrow and death for many, but for citizens of the country there were many advantages that they still remember until know. As a Russian I look at it in two ways. It was both bad and good for the country.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

when I go on Aeroflot, I still call it aeroflot SOVIET! airlines I still love the Hammer and Sickle logo, its a proud logo (I dont technically shout that out, just in my head)


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User currently offlineDazeflight From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 578 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Will there ever be a thread about Aeroflot in which L410Turbolet doesn't come up complaining about the Aeroflot Logo? We know your opinion and it's getting old - actually it already got old a few years ago. So stop contaminating every SU.-thread with your neverending hatred towards a LOGO. You act as if they smashed your testicles with the hammer and the sickle each and every day prior to 1989 - hard to believe considering you have been at school at that time and the situation was less strict than in the former GDR, whose leaders never smelled the wind of change.

Back to topic. I don't think SU will change it's logo during the next years, it's a classic, an adaption of the hammer and sickle which evolved into something on it's own. Additionally, a lot of russians like to be reminded of the past - of course most remember mainly the good parts, but this is human (you know, everything was better in the past  Laugh out loud).

In the end, i got to admit that the russian eagle would look good as well, but probably too golden, too empire-like. I prefer the simple retro look of the current logo.

ciao
Daniel


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