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Southwest To Announce Cities From PIT February 17  
User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

Southwest Airlines Chief Executive Officer Gary Kelly will be in Pittsburgh Feb. 17 to announce the cities Southwest will serve from PIT.



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05034/451915.stm

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User currently offlineFlyer737sw From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 135 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6528 times:

I cannot wait...PIT is going to be a great addition to WN...This will be the 59th city that southwest will be serving...Since IAH is out of the picture, it would have been number 60... Sad...

Kevin


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

My bets are on DEN! As crazy and unlikely I would put a lot of money on it at this point. The Mayor of Denver has confirmed that he has talked to WN to negotiate service. Usally when the aviation department turns it over to the mayor its more of a welcoming party, so DEN and WN friends again!

I will also say that I have done my part by booking my friends on WN out of DEN connecting on ATA!!



/// UNITED AIRLINES
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6493 times:

Up to six destinations? My guesses are...

Hartford/Springfield or Providence
Manchester
Kansas City
Raleigh/Durham
Chicago Midway
Houston Hobby

Future cities to follow:
Hartford/Springfield or Providence
Tampa
Orlando
New Orleans


Anybody have any insight?

Also, will Kelly fly in on a Southwest charter or what airline would he be taking into Pittsburgh.

Not too sure about the prospect of Denver....



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4405 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6491 times:
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DEN will not happen.


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6488 times:

BNA wouldn't suprise me


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

Baltimore
Nashville
Chicago-Midway
Orlando or Ft Lauderdale
Providence
Kansas City



Aiming High and going far..
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6572 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

Chicago/Midway
Baltimore
Providence
Orlando
Ft.Lauderdale
Las Vegas


User currently offlineN200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6434 times:

BWI
PHL
MDW
LAS
MCO
TPA

I don't think BNA is in the growth mode it was in a few years ago.


User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6413 times:

FLL is always gettin forgetten about by Southwest so I wouldn't count on it! They had big plans down here but never went through with them! They should be forced to give up 2 of there numberous gates to jetblue and let them expand here since they actually want to. Glad to see most of the new cities get service out west by southwest! But FLL gets squat from them.


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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2448 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6387 times:

I never guess on these things.... so here goes

MDW
BWI
LAS
MCO or FLL
LAX
MHT



You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6369 times:

Looks like I'm going to have to get a prize to give to the winner here. ;p


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User currently offlineNWDC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

BWI, MDW, LAS, Oakland, PHX. Robert NWDC10

User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

My guesses:

BWI
LAX
LAS
MCO
MDW
HOU

and then expansion to
PHL
TPA
PHX
MSY


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6260 times:

Top O & D markets from PIT that WN serves: (2003 DOT stats)

market / daily r/t pax / # of flights I think they'll START with

MCO 942 3
ORD/MDW 907 4
LAS 866 1
LAX 646 0 - they rarely start a flight like this
TPA 497 2
PHX 497 1
PHL 463 3

other notable markets/numbers:

SEA 391
FLL 382
HOU/IAH 335
SAN 322
PBI 189
MCI 167
MSY 148
BDL 140
STL 135
JAX 133
DTW 129
RDU 129
PVD 118
MHT 98
BNA 94
IND 81
PDX 79
ALB 79
SLC 78
ABQ 74
SAT 70
BWI 68
ORF 68

If you add the DCA/IAD O & D to BWI, it would equate to 233 - still fairly low!

If you add the BOS O & D to PVD, it would be 580
If you add the BOS O & D to MHT, it would be 560

PVD & MHT will be next if not part of the initial start-up schedule.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6167 times:

FLL is always gettin forgetten about by Southwest so I wouldn't count on it! They had big plans down here but never went through with them! They should be forced to give up 2 of there numberous gates to jetblue and let them expand here since they actually want to. Glad to see most of the new cities get service out west by southwest! But FLL gets squat from them.

If WN doesn't add FLL service from PIT; maybe FL will. The same could be said about PIT-PHL service. I'm surprised that FL hasn't yet re-introduced the service after receiving word that WN was coming.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6150 times:

I forgot about the gate issue in PHL with WN. If WN cannot support PHL-PIT flights right away I say PVD & MHT get 2 PIT flights each. BWI could see 2 flights as well just as a way to get PIT pax to other WN cities via BWI.

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3414 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

There is no gate issue in PHL yet. WN got another 2 gates for a total of 6 gates for only 41 or so flts. They have room to expand for now.

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6105 times:

With the upcoming expansion that will take place at PHL's Terminal E; WN will have 8 gates over there once the project is completed (which should be by Fall 2006). Whether they will keep gates D2 & D4 once the E expansion is open remains to be seen.


"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

Do you think WN will take advantage of the open hangers and 737 mechanics at PIT? Could WN make PIT a maintenance base since the airport is set up for it?

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6048 times:

Didn't they just buy a hanger at MDW from ATA? They may not need more hangers, although the PIT facilities are nice.

User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5900 times:

I would almost bet my money we will see PIT-MDW for sure...with ATA dropping or have dropped MDW-PIT service, it only makes sense.


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineBwione From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

My guesses would be:

PHL
BNA
MDW
PVD
MCO
TPA
PHX (maybe)

Agree with PVD757, that it will probably not BWI initially, Washington is not as high on the list of O&D markets from PIT as many of the other markets.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Agree with PVD757, that it will probably not BWI initially, Washington is not as high on the list of O&D markets from PIT as many of the other markets.

Mostly because fares are incredibly high. The majority of travelers between Pittsburgh and the DC area drive, and WN service to BWI, while probably not making a major difference, can't hurt.



N670UW


User currently offlineCO2BGR From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 558 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

MDW(5)
MCO(4)
LAS(2)
BWI(3)
PHX(2)
HOU(2) (18 total=2gates)
Shortly:
PVD(3)
MHT(3)
PHL(3)
LAX(1)
TPA(2)
FLL(1)



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25 Swadispatcher : These are my best educated guesses: MDW x4 PHL x4 (cheapest fare is $244/rt and US has monopoly) BWI x3 (for conx to FL and NE) MCO x2 PHX (for conx o
26 SonOfACaptain : PHL x4 (cheapest fare is $244/rt and US has monopoly) For that big of a monopoly, that isn't that bad of a fare. It could be a lot worse. -SOAC
27 Swadispatcher : True.. It's a top O/D market too though..
28 FLAIRPORT : So let's say they start with 15 flights to 6 cities...here are my guesses PHL: 4X daily MDW: 4X daily BNA: 3X daily TPA: 2X daily MCO: 2X daily LAS: 1
29 Justapassenger : Assuming 14 initial flights from PIT, they will be to: MDW x 6 PVD or MHT x 3 ISP x 2 TPA, MCO, LAS one each
30 Gift4tbone : my bets are on: PHX-best for connex to las/lax area MDW-no brainer in my eyes BWI-BWI great for FL connex PHL-Since WN like to compete head 2 head w/
31 7E72004 : Here are my picks: MDW-3x PHL-3x BWI-2x TPA-2x LAS-2x PHX-1x LAX-1x
32 PHLBOS : PHL x4 (cheapest fare is $244/rt and US has monopoly) For that big of a monopoly, that isn't that bad of a fare. It could be a lot worse. SOAC, Keep i
33 Decman : Well I personally cannot wait for a PHL service. As a student a Pitt, paying $300 to fly home just isn't in my price range, and greyhound gets old rea
34 PlaneGuy27 : Even though BWI is not top O/D, there are many Pittsburghers now living in this area....and lots of connex through BWI. I would be absolutely stunned
35 PHLBOS : Decman, You may need to write letters to both FL and WN requesting PHL-PIT service. The airline that adds it first gets your business.
36 7E72004 : didn't FL have PIT-PHL service at one point?
37 NWADC9 : "didn't FL have PIT-PHL service at one point?" Yes.
38 PHLBOS : 7E72004 (are you going to change your username to 7872004?), FL did offer r/t PHL-PIT service from about July 2001 to April 2002. They started w/4 r/t
39 Post contains images 7E72004 : I think i will stick with "7E72004" because it is the year the new plane was officially launched...maybe when the next plane comes out i will change..
40 SWACLE : Based on what "normally" happend with new cities in this area, here are what I feel to be the most likley destinations: All recent additions have star
41 Flaps : What I would like to see...... MDW - connections west PHX - connections west LAS - connections west BUR - pipe dream I know. would be happy with conne
42 PrimetimeDC9 : i like PHL MCO LAX PVD BWI TPA chicago is one of the most contested markets in pittsburgh with american, united (now using occasional 757's), usairway
43 PrimetimeDC9 : in addition the service from pit to the west coast is pretty uncontested. i think this is where southwest stands to make the most impact. the only car
44 Atrude777 : I could see a PIT-STL for connections to the West as well. Connectin in STL is so much easier then MCI/BNA/ or even LIT. Plus the O and D is good for
45 Post contains images AirlineBrat : Here is my guess for the start (7 markets).... MHT or PVD-Boston market BWI-DC market/hub PHL-new hub and competes w/ US Airways MCO-they always start
46 Jeffinbwi : I would not count on BWI. We are not able to keep the ramp staffed properly for the current number of flights. We are hearing that growth is on hold e
47 PVD757 : OK, I'm officially changing my guess to this: MDW (4) PHL (4) LAS (1) MCO (1)
48 PSU.DTW.SCE : I don't see DTW-PIT happening. WN has not added routes to DTW ages. Plus NW and US already serve this route well. The O&D has got to be rather low sin
49 762er : I believe this is already official. It's going to be 4 to MDW and PHL and 1 to LAS and MCO for a total of 10 roundtrips.
50 Ntspelich : I would not count on BWI. We are not able to keep the ramp staffed properly for the current number of flights. We are hearing that growth is on hold e
51 PVD757 : I'm betting there will be no PIT-BWI to start...
52 Post contains images 7e72004 : Many don't seem to think that PHL will beone of the first cities; i think that would be wise decision to start PIT-PHL service right away
53 PVD757 : Me too 7E72004. I think we'll find out for sure tomorrow.
54 PVD757 : Todays the big day and it seems that the schedule was already posted on another thread...
55 Post contains links and images Stirling : Someone give PVD757 a cigar. He wins, with either a really good guess or really good inside information! I am wondering how long it's going to be befo
56 Bennett123 : Has the announcement been made yet?. Is there much overlap with existing carriers?.
57 7E72004 : I looked on the WN website and there is nothing about the list yet.
58 Post contains images Swadispatcher : I'm afraid PVD757 just saw that they were loaded in Sabre a day early.. Sorry, 75! [Edited 2005-02-17 20:22:25]
59 CasInterest : Southwest's schedule website has the city pairs... no pdf's yet. Route Map has been updated
60 Post contains links N670UW : Here you are folks... http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....l-newsArticle&ID=676421&highlight= N670UW
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