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Afghan Plane Missing In Snowstorm (Freak Condition)  
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

hope its nothng majour and that everyone is ok

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4234899.stm


"Up the Irons!"
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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9962 times:

Still not found yet, thought the BBC radio said 126 people but I could be wrong.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9940 times:

I fear the worst  Sad.

Patrick


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9938 times:

I thought it was gonna be a tragic Ariana Afgahn a/c (seeing as they just went back into service) but i hope all are found alive.

Dog


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9900 times:

Me too, though it doesn't sound too good. Anybody know what version 737 it is? Regi?

User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

oh dear.. this is like something in an aviation survival video. :p

however, along with sabenna332; i fear the worst  Sad


User currently offlineJFernandez From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9656 times:

Does someone have more info on "freak weather conditions"? I don't get how snow in the Northern Hemisphere in early February is odd, especially in a high altitude country like Afghanistan.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9621 times:


According to their website www.flykamair.com, they operate a B737-200.

Given the location and time of year, the weather must be really bad.

I fear the worst.

In some ways, it might be best if they hit a mountain. I do not think that a belly landing is going to be survivable, and at least a mountain is quick.



User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9492 times:


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That's the only Kam Air 737 in the d/b... hope everyone is OK



I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineBigPhilNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9470 times:

I dont recall any similar story ever turning out well.

My prayers and hope for those aboard.

-Phil



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9334 times:

Wow based on their website, this airline looks 10000 times more professional then Ariana. They also have 767-200ER's!!!!


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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9332 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146358,00.html

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9264 times:

Whats the Latest.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9242 times:

Supposedly, it's been found, diverted to another airport... I hope so... I say "supposedly" as once KAL 7 went missing back in the 1980s, there were initial news stories that the aircraft had landed somewhere, which of course didn't prove to be the case...

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/04/content_2546370.htm



[Edited 2005-02-04 07:28:44]

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9234 times:

That plane is down somewhere, it seems like it is a search and rescue now. Maybe somehow some survived and are waiting to be rescued. God bless them.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9210 times:

Gee, an updated story saying that aircraft isn't really diverted afterall...  Insane

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/04/content_2546684.htm


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9109 times:

I believe the aircraft in question is a Boeing 737-200 Advanced; CN 22075/630, operated by Phoenix Aviation from the United Arab Emirates.

The aircraft saw first service in Canada with Nordair as C-GNDR as well as with LACSA as N238TA.


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Let's hope for the best!



Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8967 times:

According to CNN International, it is now a "Search and Rescue" mission around Kabul... Afghan Transport Ministry now considers the airliner crashed and so does the airline; Kam Air  Sad


Kafa, čaj, šraf?
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8921 times:

Considering the Terrain.Its would be a tough job to locate it.Any ELT indications on the News.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8840 times:


I am often puzzled that when a plane goes missing or crashes at the apparent confusion.

How is it that Peshawar and Kam Air did not know if the plane had landed or not.

Equally when a plane goes down, there are sometimes fluctuactions in the reported number aboard for several days.


User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8740 times:

Bennett123
A few month ago I read an article by a Danish air force ATC in the danish aviation magazine FLYV (in English: FLY). He was working at the airport in Kabul. He described the conditions as VERY primitive.
So I am not surprised that the plane has disappeared. Most of the Afghan airspace is not controlled.

What makes me wonder is that the plane did not have fuel enough to divert to another airport. Is that some sort of a mistake?

Yours in realtime
JHSfan



Look at me, I´m riding high, I´m the airbornmaster of the sky...
User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8683 times:

Wreckage has been found, east of Kabul, according to Dutch news sources. Konstantin, did you know that Hollands largest newspaper uses your picture on their site???

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/17822891/Wrak_vermist_Afghaans_vliegtuig_gevonden.html

PH-BFA

[Edited 2005-02-04 12:24:25]

User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8691 times:

Dutch Apache helicopters are being deployed to locate the plane's wreck. The plane is definitely down. Apache's are used because of their FLIR camera's and to make sure rescue workers can work safely.

Cheers!



Only Those Who Sleep Don't Make Mistakes
User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

Unfortunately 104 fatalities...

User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8457 times:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050204/ap_on_re_as/afghan_missing_plane


'Do we carry rich people on our flights? Yes, I flew on one this morning and I�m very rich.' - Michael O'Leary
25 Airlinelover : Is there anyone who has a link about wreckage in english? I don't speak/read whatever that one is above.. Chris
26 Post contains links OPNLguy : http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/04/content_2547655.htm
27 LifelinerOne : The plane is found 50 km outside Kabul. There was an unspecified number of foreigners on board. Cheers!
28 NCLairport : This talk of Winter Operations is worrying me. Im flying to Bulgaria from LGW on Saturday. Current weather at Sofia airport in Bulgaria is -7 degrees
29 LifelinerOne : This talk of Winter Operations is worrying me. Im flying to Bulgaria from LGW on Saturday. Current weather at Sofia airport in Bulgaria is -7 degrees
30 NCLairport : London Gatwick is not my worry, Sofia is.
31 Post contains images Western737 : Just saw CBS national news which stated "Boeing 737 which looked like this plane" while video actual 767-200.
32 ZOTAN : Thats funny that they showed a 762. What Airline was it? I konw CBS has footage of 737's so I wonder why they didnt use it....
33 Gearup : This talk of Winter Operations is worrying me. Im flying to Bulgaria from LGW on Saturday. Current weather at Sofia airport in Bulgaria is -7 degrees
34 Post contains images 7LBAC111 : BBC now saying that Afghan officials are denying finding the wreckage! How bizarre! 7LBAC111
35 Sovietjet : Yea don't worry airports in Bulgaria know what to do in bad weather conditions. Hopefully everyone from the Afghan plane is ok. Slightly off-topic...c
36 Post contains links Planespotterx : CNN saying residents in the nearby town of Butkhak which is 3.1 miles from Kabul heard a explosion the same time the airliner went missing. http://www
37 Pilotaydin : my father just phoned from Turkmenistan, he frequents Kabul weekly with Ariana and also Azerbaijan airlines, he has flown domestic there a lot and sai
38 Lamedianaranja : Sounds like they ran out of fuel. This was on the Dutch news too. So sorry for all involved.
39 VivaGunners : Sad news indeed..... RIP
40 Jake056 : very sad. I would hope not a fuel starvation situation. that to me seems totally avoidable.
41 BA : I would hope not a fuel starvation situation. that to me seems totally avoidable. Agreed... I hope we find out more about this mysterious tragedy. My
42 IDAWA : Are there any reports of survivors? I-DAWA
43 B741 : God Bless all those souls. I think that a/c used to fly into YWG with Nordair.
44 777ER : May all the victims rest in peace. Regards
45 HAWK21M : Would Bagram not permit an Emergency Landing. regds MEL
46 Post contains images DLKAPA : YAY FOR US FOREIGN POLICY! But really though why would the Afghani's DENY finding any wreckage of THEIR OWN airplane??? This whole thing sounds very s
47 Andz : Sky is now reporting breaking news that NATO announced the wreckage has been found, no further details.
48 Pilotaydin : That's what I heard from Kabul, that Bagram denied landing. I know im speculating but, I doubt the US is heartless, perhaps there was no emergency dec
49 Post contains links AndrewUber : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6910281/ wreckage has been found, looks like no survivors. God bless them all.
50 Post contains images JetBlast : Just in- CBS is saying 3 Americans were on board and are confirmed dead. Any updates on this? Regards JetBlast @ BWI
51 Post contains links OPNLguy : No official word yet, but according to this, they fear the worst... http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/02/05/3_from_ne_missing_in_afghan_c
52 Post contains images Jacobin777 : God bless them all, may they rest in peace.......
53 Lamedianaranja : It was a Dutch Apache helicopter from the NATO task force that located the wreck.
54 Jaysit : Again, does anyone know if, or why, Bagram Air Base denied landing? If the pilot had declared a fuel emergency, I doubt if Bagram would have denied la
55 Pilotaydin : my father just came home from Turkmenistan, he said he knew some of the people that were onboard the plane. One of the Turkish engineers was going to
56 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : it seems like a very tough place to land as it is, must have been impossible with all the snow....doesn't the 737-200 have any warning systems thats i
57 HAWK21M : Has the CVR & FDR been traced. regds MEL
58 NIKV69 : Last I heard they still can't reach the wreckage. They know where it is just can't reach it. 8 feet of snow.
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