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Getting FF Miles For Someone Else's Flights?  
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8157 times:

Hi all, here's my question:

I fly when I can (between classes, work, et al) -- and only get about 18 segments a year in at best. I have NW and UA FF numbers even though it's rather unlikely I'll get a ticket out of either of them in the foreseeable future.

My dad does a moderate amount of business travel -- always full fare Y or F (and frequently with 0 advance purchase) -- but doesn't "see the value" of FF programs so he doesn't have numbers for any of the major carriers.

His discussion of an upcoming trip made me think: Could he use my NW Worldperks (or UA Mileage Plus, depending on the carrier) number to earn mileage for me on that trip, or does the name on the account have to match the name on the PNR?

Thanks!

Lincoln  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8140 times:

Simple. No. It really sucks, cause my fiancee does not want her miles, and my mom also would rather have them put in my account when she flies. But, NW and all the others say it has to be YOUR account if YOU are flying.

It sucks, but I guess it is meant to prevent fraud.

Chris



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User currently offlineViveLeYHZ From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 194 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8128 times:

I am afraid the name on the ticket has to match the one on the FF card/account. So the answer is no, he cannot use your FF card. However, he can get his own, and you can use the points to book trips for yourself. The name on the reward ticket does not have to be that of the account owner.

Your case is very similar to mine. My father travels alot, he cannot be bothered with these FF points, but I got him to open an account, and I use the points myself. So far, I got two free trips out of it, and have enough points for two more anywhere in North America.

I hope this helps !

Cheers,
ViveLeYHZ


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

What is good with Cathay Pacific and their Marco Polo Club is that you can nominate family or friends with FF account and you can transfer miles between them to redeem for a ticket/upgrade, etc.


People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8115 times:

So you sign them up for an account, put it in all the reservations, and you know you can use their miles to get your free ticket... my dad gets about 300,000 miles a year on UA and buys tickets for our whole family. ive used my miles to get my girlfriend a ticket, so it doesnt have to be family/ same last name. just ask them to get an account for you in their name and you'll have access to all their miles if they really dont want them

TWA902



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

My dad does a moderate amount of business travel -- always full fare Y or F (and frequently with 0 advance purchase) -- but doesn't "see the value" of FF programs so he doesn't have numbers for any of the major carriers.

While you're barred from selling or bartering FF awards, it's entirely legal (at least for most programs--there may be some exceptions out there), to give awards to another person, who don't necessarily have to be a close relation.

If your dad sees "no value" to FF programs for himself, why not ask him to sign up anyway and give the tickets he earns to you? If he does as much traveling as you say, you could net a few free tickets per year out of it, especially with first class travel bonuses. But then, once he sees you flying for free, or ordering upgrades off his account, he might decide to keep them for himself, LOL.

(From personal experience, I know that if you've another person's PIN # for their Delta account, they will allow you to order awards and arrange free travel as you please, for any person you choose--as long as it's not intended for sale or barter. I even used the AAdvantage account of a female friend of mine's last year to order a ticket for a third party when we were planning a group event and it was easier for me to arrange all the tickets. The AA agent knew full well I wasn't the party who held the account nor the person traveling on the award, and simply put me on hold to phone her to confirm I had permission to make the mileage withdrawal.)

Cheers and good luck!  Smile

(Heh, looks like while I was typing my post, others had the same good idea.)

[Edited 2005-02-06 08:47:29]


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User currently offlineViveLeYHZ From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 194 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8097 times:

AeroWesty,


I know that if you've another person's PIN # for their Delta account, they will allow you to order awards


We, law-abiding a.netters don't do that. *wink wink* nudge nudge *  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I must say though, being able to use the internet to book reward tickets takes the guilt out of using my Dad's account.

Cheers,
ViveLeYHZ


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8092 times:

We, law-abiding a.netters don't do that. *wink wink* nudge nudge *

Hrm? Maybe what I said was misinterpreted. I was just relating that when someone gives you the authorization to use their Delta account, or v.v., all you need is the PIN #, and then no further verification is necessary. Nothing nefarious or illegal about it.  Smile



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User currently offlineViveLeYHZ From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 194 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8074 times:

AeroWesty,

My bad. The first time I booked a free ticket with AC was back in 2000. My father was away, and back then you couldn't book free tickets online. So, I called AC and basically impersonated my father, who was away at the time.

I know it wasn't the best thing to do, but I knew I had my father's consent. The only reason he was collecting FF points was for me to get free tickets.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7968 times:

Ok. Thanks for all of the answers!

It looks like it's as I suspected, but I hadn't thought about having him open his own account... (Duh!) it would be nice to have them collect in my account for other reasons (i.e. a possible shot at elite status), but that's better than not getting any miles at all for the flight.

Sounds like Cathay has an interesting setup.

Thanks again,

Lincoln  Big thumbs up



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