Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2903 times:
Colgan Air has posted a map of the Continental Connection routes it will take over from SkyWest in March:
Interestingly, only 5 markets will switch in March. The others will begin in July.
Also, unlike previously believed, routes like IAH-LRD, IAH-SHV, IAH-AEX, and IAH-LCH will switch from Continental Express (with ERJs) to Colgan/Continental Connection (with SF3s). I am very surprised to see Colgan taking over some of these Continental Express routes, particularly LRD and SHV. These markets are (IMHO) distant and large enough to support RJ traffic profitably.
Also, the Colgan flights have been uploaded into Continental's reservation system; they now appear as Colgan flights instead of SkyWest.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2804 times:
SHV, BPT, LCH, LRD, and AEX will see a mixed bag of ERJs and Saab 340s. I think that's why their dots are colored differently from the other cities where it is exclusively CO Connection/Colgan Air. However, if Colgan Air gets their hands on a few 50-seat aircraft, as was provisioned in the contract, expect to see at least a handful of these cities go all-Colgan.
I'm looking forward to the jetway boarding that the SF3 allows, to avoid that oppressive summer heat in Texas, in addition to the 4 extra seats and larger cabin. Overall I think the SF3 is an improvement over the EMB-120, and I for one am glad to see Colgan Air in IAH.
Ejmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
Looks great......still no SPS though......
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Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2647 times:
CODC10, do you know which airports above have jetbridges that are compatible with the SF3? I know ABI and CLL have them, and I assume that SHV has them as well.
And thanks for the update on the CoEx cities. I assumed that they will keep some RJs, but I wasn't sure. Any word on whether GRK will see RJs?
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5341 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2590 times:
Okay, somebody tell me WHY Continental is doing this?
Trading an entire airline- Skywest for Colgan- for a gain of 4 seats doesn't make much sense. Especially with the rumor around here that you can put people in those seats in a 340.
What was wrong with Skywest?
Further, I don't think Colgan even HAS any 340s, do they? I only know of their Beech 1900Ds.
???????
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
This was discussed on many different posts, but basically, SkyWest couldn't meet CO's request for more seats on these routes. True, 4 seats on each flight might not sound like much, but on a route with 4 daily flights, that's 16 seats -- a 13% increase in capacity. In many cases, filling those 4 seats could be the difference between profit and loss.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
Further, I don't think Colgan even HAS any 340s, do they..?
They have 17 Saab 340's, with more on order.
...and again... NO they are NOT coming from C8 or out of ABI. The aircraft pictured N9CJ, later flew with Mesaba in Northwest Airlink colors, and later returned to Colgan in USAirways Express colors.
[Edited 2005-02-08 00:33:20]
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TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3220 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
SF340's on order? Thought Saab got out of the game....
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
>This was discussed on many different posts, but basically, SkyWest couldn't meet CO's request for more seats on these routes.<
Actually, they did not want to. This is a franchise deal, not fee-per-departure. In this case, OO did not want to commit more of their capital to the market. Perhaps if they had a larger turbo-prop
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Flaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1115 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2359 times:
Colgan still has substantial operations out of PIT that no longer have much to connect to. I have been wondering for some time now if some of these ops will change from US Express out of PIT to CO out of CLE. Some of the aircraft for IAH could also come out of PIT as I imagine that these ops will continue to dwindle, SF3's to 1900's and 1900's to no service at all. Shuttle America also has excess SF3 capacity in these markets.
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4726 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
Aren't most of their PIT ops on EAS subsidized routes? They can't change those services to CLE or anywhere else without DOT approval and a new subsidy formula. I believe the few flights that have been changed from PIT so far have been changed to IAD.
AEroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 310 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2269 times:
I Miss the SAAB. As crazy as it may seem to say that, I really do miss woking on the SAAB. Does anyone know what might become of the AE SAABS in ABI and IGM? Many will be scraped, but is there hope for any of them? They still look in good condition. Any thought?
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2240 times:
Aren't most of their PIT ops on EAS subsidized routes?
Many of them aren't.
From PIT, Colgan flies to ABE, AOO, AVP, BFD, CMH, CRW, IAD, JHW, JST, ROC, and SHD.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6875 posts, RR: 29 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
Shuttle America is no longer a USAiways Express carrier, the fly Saabs solely under the UAX banner out of IAD.
Colgan still operates a number of Saabs and B-1900D's out of PIT and other routes in the Northeast under the USAirways Express banner. These ops are unaffected by the new contract under CO. The IAH flying will not affect the PIT or USExpress ops. No, they will not switch to CLE flying for CO.
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