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Colgan Announces New Continental Connection Routes  
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Colgan Air has posted a map of the Continental Connection routes it will take over from SkyWest in March:



Interestingly, only 5 markets will switch in March. The others will begin in July.

Also, unlike previously believed, routes like IAH-LRD, IAH-SHV, IAH-AEX, and IAH-LCH will switch from Continental Express (with ERJs) to Colgan/Continental Connection (with SF3s). I am very surprised to see Colgan taking over some of these Continental Express routes, particularly LRD and SHV. These markets are (IMHO) distant and large enough to support RJ traffic profitably.

Also, the Colgan flights have been uploaded into Continental's reservation system; they now appear as Colgan flights instead of SkyWest.



[Edited 2005-02-07 20:45:39]


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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2406 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

SHV, BPT, LCH, LRD, and AEX will see a mixed bag of ERJs and Saab 340s. I think that's why their dots are colored differently from the other cities where it is exclusively CO Connection/Colgan Air. However, if Colgan Air gets their hands on a few 50-seat aircraft, as was provisioned in the contract, expect to see at least a handful of these cities go all-Colgan.

I'm looking forward to the jetway boarding that the SF3 allows, to avoid that oppressive summer heat in Texas, in addition to the 4 extra seats and larger cabin. Overall I think the SF3 is an improvement over the EMB-120, and I for one am glad to see Colgan Air in IAH.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Looks great......still no SPS though......


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

CODC10, do you know which airports above have jetbridges that are compatible with the SF3? I know ABI and CLL have them, and I assume that SHV has them as well.

And thanks for the update on the CoEx cities. I assumed that they will keep some RJs, but I wasn't sure. Any word on whether GRK will see RJs?



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

Okay, somebody tell me WHY Continental is doing this?
Trading an entire airline- Skywest for Colgan- for a gain of 4 seats doesn't make much sense. Especially with the rumor around here that you can put people in those seats in a 340.
What was wrong with Skywest?
Further, I don't think Colgan even HAS any 340s, do they? I only know of their Beech 1900Ds.
???????


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

This was discussed on many different posts, but basically, SkyWest couldn't meet CO's request for more seats on these routes. True, 4 seats on each flight might not sound like much, but on a route with 4 daily flights, that's 16 seats -- a 13% increase in capacity. In many cases, filling those 4 seats could be the difference between profit and loss.

Furthermore, Colgan has Saabs:



http://www.colganair.com/aircraft.htm

And, they are acquiring more, either from C8 or the ex-AAEagle Saabs that are stored at ABI:


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"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

Further, I don't think Colgan even HAS any 340s, do they..?

They have 17 Saab 340's, with more on order.

...and again... NO they are NOT coming from C8 or out of ABI. The aircraft pictured N9CJ, later flew with Mesaba in Northwest Airlink colors, and later returned to Colgan in USAirways Express colors.

[Edited 2005-02-08 00:33:20]


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

SF340's on order? Thought Saab got out of the game....

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Probably SF3's that are coming from a leasing company or other airlines.


Sean from MCO and MKE



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

>This was discussed on many different posts, but basically, SkyWest couldn't meet CO's request for more seats on these routes.<

Actually, they did not want to. This is a franchise deal, not fee-per-departure. In this case, OO did not want to commit more of their capital to the market. Perhaps if they had a larger turbo-prop



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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1269 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

Colgan still has substantial operations out of PIT that no longer have much to connect to. I have been wondering for some time now if some of these ops will change from US Express out of PIT to CO out of CLE. Some of the aircraft for IAH could also come out of PIT as I imagine that these ops will continue to dwindle, SF3's to 1900's and 1900's to no service at all. Shuttle America also has excess SF3 capacity in these markets.

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5420 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Aren't most of their PIT ops on EAS subsidized routes? They can't change those services to CLE or anywhere else without DOT approval and a new subsidy formula. I believe the few flights that have been changed from PIT so far have been changed to IAD.


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User currently offlineAEroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

I Miss the SAAB. As crazy as it may seem to say that, I really do miss woking on the SAAB. Does anyone know what might become of the AE SAABS in ABI and IGM? Many will be scraped, but is there hope for any of them? They still look in good condition. Any thought?

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Aren't most of their PIT ops on EAS subsidized routes?

Many of them aren't.

From PIT, Colgan flies to ABE, AOO, AVP, BFD, CMH, CRW, IAD, JHW, JST, ROC, and SHD.



N670UW


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3109 times:

The first aircraft for this new contract has been delivered in standard Colgan colors...


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Shuttle America is no longer a USAiways Express carrier, the fly Saabs solely under the UAX banner out of IAD.

Colgan still operates a number of Saabs and B-1900D's out of PIT and other routes in the Northeast under the USAirways Express banner. These ops are unaffected by the new contract under CO. The IAH flying will not affect the PIT or USExpress ops. No, they will not switch to CLE flying for CO.


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