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AA's Super High Price For A Short Trip.  
User currently offlineReguPilot From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2004, 495 posts, RR: 24
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6304 times:

Hello All to everyone who read this!!

While trying to book a flight from SJU to SDQ, I realized that American Airlines is the current one and only airline who flies the route nonstop. While Spirit Airlines and even US Airways would take me, I would have to go as close as FLL to get to SDQ. But the biggest surprise, and that made me anger, its that, the direct AA flight, its at least $306.00 USD!!!!... It is only a 1hr flight, and considering, that to NY (I had booked a flt to NYC last week) was $189 roundtrip - SJU-JFK. And even to EWR, the roundtrip from SJU was only $209.

So, why charge $250+ for such a short trip, knowing that most of the people who travels are workers who could not afford that much money. Surprisingly, the route does great, since Dominicans can't stand being away from their island for several months.

We had other carriers serving the route, but they either cancel the route, or go bankrupt.

What are your thoughts?
Thanks for reading!

Ragu!

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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

No competition = no price war = AA can charge whatever the hell they want.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33278 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6261 times:

It's a free market.

AA sets the price at what the market will pay. The market is willing to pay $300+ on the flight and keep it profitable.



a.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6227 times:

Short trips are often the most expensive.

I pay over $600.00 DTW-CVG for a non-restricted fare on NW.


User currently offlinePapaNovember From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6220 times:


Convenience costs. Why pay $6.00 for a gallon of milk at the convenience store when you can pay $3.00 at the grocery store?

Out of curiosity what were the prices on Spirit and US Airways? And what was the time difference (departure and arrival?)



User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

As everybody here said. No competition, higher prices. Basic economics. The same happens with TACA. Once, my dad was on a bussines trip through Central America and a short, 2 hours flight from SJO to Belize cost him (well, is company...) 550 USD (Economy class, even though he was on a bussines trip).
Definitely try US Airways with a stop wherever. It´s cheaper and making connections is fun...isn´t it... Big grin  Big thumbs up



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineReguPilot From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2004, 495 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6104 times:

True thing of the free market, but people, we're talking at an hour flight. On;y 250 miles. JFK, its about $200 and its a 4hr flight!

Spirit's flight takes me to FLL in the morning and I wait in FLL 9 hours before taking my flight to SDQ... price..... $30 cheaper than AA.... its also true that making connections is fun.


User currently offlinePapaNovember From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6065 times:


If it's only $30 difference sounds like the AA flight is a deal! How much are your nine hours worth to you? Hopefully more than $3.33 an hour!!


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6059 times:

Requ:

It doesn't matter if it's a one hour flight or not. Check some other city pairs, like LHR-CDG for a one-way flight, and you'll see BA and AF charging US$650, but at least you get a jet.  Smile

It all comes down to JFK-SJU has enormous amounts of traffic and competition, driving prices down.

From PDX, there's a $500 difference round-trip between flying to SJU or SXM, a further distance of only 192 miles.

Why do you think US and UA are expanding routes in the Caribbean? It's where the money is.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6019 times:

The walkup r/t fare for DFW-MEM is $1,081

BNA is more than that.

Repeal the wright ammendment!!



"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

American is taking advantage of the fact that they are the only airline with non-stop service. It is very inconvenient to connect all the way in MIA or FLL for example. Therefore, it is simply a monopoly type of situation......you basically have no choice but to go with them if you want the convenience of a direct flight so therefore you are STUCK WITH THEIR OUTRAGEOUS FARES!

User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1188 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5945 times:

ReguPilot:
I assume that you prefer AA (as I do) and that you want to accumulate ff miles and pay the least possible. Have you tried:

SJU - MIA
MIA - SDQ

I bet the price will be much better, you will accumulate more ff miles, and the connection times will be great, since there probably is more frequency between those two routes than between SJU and SDQ.
Just a thought. What does everyone think?
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineJetblue From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 393 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

And why not take advantage of having the advantage of a nonstop flight? It's about convenience, and $306 for a one hour flight is not the end of the world.

I sold a ticket to a guy who HAD to FLY from South Bend, IN to Chicago....it's a 17 minute flight! Do you know how much he paid for the ONE way? $533!!!!!!

I offered to drive the guy for $400, but he was not about to do the trip in a car, or pay the bus $33 for the same trip. Some people are just willing to throw away money like that, and the airlines won't complain about it.

jetBlue



We know for you it's not just a seat on a flight to a place. It's a seat on a flight to your life.
User currently offlinePapaNovember From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5889 times:


I just checked AA.com and flight 891 (B757) tomorrow SJU to SDQ is $182.95 one-way. And the site shows that Iberia makes the flight on a 747-300 for $158.95. Round trip tomorrow (both flights) on AA is $320.00.


FLY2LIM,

The Miami routing was $330.00 for a one-way ticket tomorrow.



User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1188 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

The Miami routing was $330.00 for a one-way ticket tomorrow.

First, doesn't anyone know that booking a ticket for "tomorrow" is much more expensive than giving it a 14 day advance?
Second, doesn't anyone know that a round trip ticket is much cheaper than a one way?

I am curious to hear what a 14 day advance, round trip ticket via Miami costs. I know how to do it but I'm not that interested.
Yes, I want to know even if the person who started the thread doesn't have a 14 day window of travel time.
Thanks,
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5866 times:

I had a flight in 2002 from LGA to PWM in August with American Eagle, a 45 min flight just one way for $340.

User currently offlinePapaNovember From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

FLY2LIM,

I chose to use tomorrow's date specifically because we don't know when his travel dates are and I knew those would be the most expensive. On March 8th the round trip fare is still $325 takes almost six hours (including connection time in Miami) and is good for 1893 ff miles.

Non-stop on the same day, and round trip is still $306.00 on AA and is good for 241 ff miles and takes 64 minutes.

Phil...

p.s. Sorry you weren't interested, but you made me curious.

[Edited 2005-02-08 04:50:44]

User currently offlineReguPilot From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2004, 495 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5814 times:

FLY2LIM

I still have about 21 days for my trip. I've been checking on the prices and they've been fluctuating between $280-$320. Its true about the getting more FF miles, but since there are plenty of nonstops a day, flying through Miami, is actually more expensive: $469.55 VS $311.00 nonstop from SJU.

You know, I understand how the market is and how making business works... but. AA has also established itself as the Puertorrican airline, and even the Dominican airline. They are very tied up to the local community... and... how quick prices soar... prices to SDQ were about $230 like 6 months ago (not for this trip I'm booking).

So, it seems that AA its not that of a very nice and humble company to offer low prices - reminds me of something related I did myself =)).. I'm not a business man.

I would still have to take it... Now, I wonder if I should wait until the NetsAAver fares and see if SDQ shows up by that time.

Thanks for all the replies!!
Regu - Ragu


User currently offlineReguPilot From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2004, 495 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5810 times:

My travel dates are from Feb 26, to up 15 days after that.

User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1188 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5720 times:

I chose to use tomorrow's date specifically because we don't know when his travel dates are and I knew those would be the most expensive. On March 8th the round trip fare is still $325 takes almost six hours (including connection time in Miami) and is good for 1893 ff miles.

Non-stop on the same day, and round trip is still $306.00 on AA and is good for 241 ff miles and takes 64 minutes.


PapaNovember:

Thanks for the info. From the looks of it, it defintely is WORTH going non stop, even if it's not the "cheapest" 241 mile flight. Still, it is an international flight and AA seems to have a bit of a tight grip on the market. Do we know what it takes for AA to operate that flight between two countries? Maybe it's a costlier endeavor, though I'm sure they will take all the money they can get.

p.s. Sorry you weren't interested, but you made me curious.

My original post stated that I was not "that" interested to find time to look the info up. I am always "interested".  Smile




Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5665 times:

Simply because they can and also possibly because of supply and demand. Also how long is your flight from now? That may have to do with it

User currently offlineAr1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

Why would you charge less if at the current rip off price you are selling it good?Remember they are here for bussines, to make money.They don't do favors or offer some kind of transportation services to people.And they dont care either if Jose or Pedro won't have what to eat for a week 'cause of there high fares.Raw capitalism.

Mike



They don't call us Continental for nothing.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33278 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

Try booking Boston Maine Airways with a stop in Aguadilla for a cheaper fare.


a.
User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5593 times:

Iberia flies SJU-SDQ secveral times a week with a 743. I think they sell the flight. I'm on it in June.

User currently offlineAhlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1347 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

Looks like Iberia charges $317 for the roundtrip, so that's a bit more expensive, but could be more interesting, though they only fly SJU-SDQ on Tuesday/Thursday and the return Monday/Wednesday

25 Post contains images Incitatus : Here is a two-item breakdown of the SJU-SDQ fare: American charges $239 - high but not outrageous. The other $82 are taxes. Taxes on tickets out of t
26 Post contains images ENCRJ : US will start daily PHL-VCE next May. This will bring one of the best livery to my home airport . I know the aircraft will be a 767. Is there any hope
27 Post contains images ENCRJ : US will start daily PHL-VCE next May. This will bring one of the best livery to my home airport . I know the aircraft will be a 767. Is there any hope
28 NYCFlyer : US will start daily PHL-VCE next May. This will bring one of the best livery to my home airport . I know the aircraft will be a 767. Is there any hope
29 ENCRJ : Sorry for the last two posts! I wanted to start a new thread...
30 Ssides : American charges $239 - high but not outrageous. The other $82 are taxes. That is not in any way outrageous for a one-hour flight. Economies of scale,
31 Flybyguy : $239rt for a 1hour flight is not bad at all. I had to pay $550rt from LGA-ITH once and that is about 200 miles. The price rarely goes below $300 for t
32 Jumbojet : Until more airlines compete with AA, this is what you pay. Same thing holds true for SJU to SXM . AA is asking $255 USC. this flight lasts about 35 mi
33 777DadandJr : Not just AA. My business partner had to go from Hrrisburg, Pa. to Nashville, Tn. He booked a flight on USAir on a Friday for a Monday flight, returnin
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