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Two Virgin Atlantic Planes @ AMS  
User currently offlineSPL From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10541 times:

Very rare event this morning in AMS. This early morning a Virgin Atlantic A340-600 G-VATL, on it's way from Hong Kong to London Heathrow, had engine problems (Fuel Management Problems) and had to make a stop at AMS. Plane was parked at gate G09. Passengers left the plane and were put in waiting area G09. Drinks and food were provided. The engine problem couldn't be fixed AND no correct tow bar available at AMS to get the plane to a remote stand. Sister ship G-VXLG is flown in from London Gatwick to pick up the stranded passengers and was carrying a push back bar for the stranded A340-600! At a AMS we got A340 types, but only 200 and 300, so these tow bars are different from size, due to the bigger tires of the 600.


Groeten Martijn

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User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10492 times:

Is the 346 still af ams??


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User currently offlineSPL From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10477 times:

Yep, don't know anything about a departure time. The B744 is expected to leave around this time. The A346 was standing at Gate G09 and the B744 at remote stand G73, if everything works out, the planes are switched allready.


Groeten Martijn


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10463 times:

Man, I'm going to the airport to see if it's still there.

A388 Big grin


User currently offlineSPL From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10453 times:

The B744 is now expected to leave 15:52 for LHR!!!


Groeten Martijn


User currently offlineACVitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10260 times:

I thought AMS used supertugs and did not use tow bars?

User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10203 times:

How many pax were on the A346?

By the way: something simillar happened when an MU A346 diverted from CDG to BRU not too long ago. They also didn't have a tug to push the aircraft.

And if I recall correct, the same happened at SNN several weeks ago when a LH A346 had to divert. LH had to fly another aircraft from FRA to SNN as they couldn't move the A346.

Frederic


User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10168 times:

So which airports are A346 compalible? I thought most were for the 744, or is the -600 just bigger?

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10088 times:

well there is always MAD!!


Why don't these planes divert to MAD, it is a little out of the way but capable of the A346. So are:

CDG
LHR
FRA
MUN
ZRH
LGW (if the A345 has same wheel size)
and I am sure a couple others.

I would be great to get the other A346s! Rather then just IB, but atleast we see 11 A346s daily!


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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10066 times:

Good suggestion. Mind you, why not CDG or FRA, don't these people know where equipment is?

User currently offlineSpl From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10058 times:

Pax unknown, guess from what I saw around 200 or something like that. I think in this case AMS is compalible for the A340-600, even for the new A380, allready facilities are made, for handling the plane. Tow bars are indeed used at AMS. The supertugs are used only for Boeing planes I think? Otherwise they would have used it today?


Groeten Martijn


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10045 times:

so what happens when you can't move the plane? Do you have to start it up on the spot and just move it useing its own engine power?


No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10039 times:

Any pics of them in AMS?


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10031 times:

Mind you, why not CDG or FRA

The plane was inbound to LHR from HKG. Why would it fly the extra distance to CDG or FRA when LHR/LGW would be just as far, and not need to have to ferry in another plane to take care of the passengers in the first place? I'm sure they didn't just pick AMS because the pilot was afraid to fly over the Channel. Even us Americans can figure out the geography on that one, LOL

Cheers.



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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10011 times:

Yes, this is all a bit odd.... still, let me be the first to say Kung Hei Fat Choi / Gong Xi Fa Cai!

Spike  Smile


User currently offlineSky0000547 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9959 times:

Yes Kung Hei Fat Choi to Spike and to all on A.net

Happy Flying  Smile


User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9821 times:

Just been there, here are the photos:

http://www.campus-site.nl

Cheers,

Schreiner

PS. Thanks Martijn for posting!

[Edited 2005-02-08 17:24:13]

[Edited 2005-02-08 17:24:29]


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User currently offlineTripple7 From Netherlands, joined Aug 1999, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9802 times:

Great pics!

are you gonna post them on a.net too?

We really need some regular A346 operators at AMS. Great aircraft!


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9790 times:

good pics mate  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineSchreiner From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9777 times:

Thanks guys;

Ive uploaded to a.net... But I dont know if the quality is good enough. Im not that good in photo-editing.

Cheers



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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9682 times:

They do use the Towbarless Tug on Airbus's.


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So why didn't they move it, or may AMS need to get one or two towbars for A346's.

Tom


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Can I edit this post?

[Edited 2005-02-08 18:11:02]


Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineN774UA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9657 times:

So why didn't they move it, or may AMS need to get one or two towbars for A346's

According to the pics, the ground handling is done by Menzies. I don't think that they have supertugs that big. Big grin

N774UA

[Edited 2005-02-08 18:15:09]


...follow his instructions, switch off at the stand.
User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9610 times:

It could all just be a bit of tubthumping by VS in AMS.... I wouldn't put it past them! Or maybe SRB had run out of his stash and needed a 'twin pack' for the long Asian holiday?

User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9606 times:

The photos of the NWA A330 are being towed by the same tug which tows 744.

Look


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See, so why didn't they tow it.

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9567 times:

does anyone know when A346 is leaving???

Nick



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25 Speedbird2025 : Too bad this didn't take place while I was there. LOL! And nice pics Schreiner. --Nate
26 Schreiner : Departure expected: 19.00 I've heard...
27 DRAIGONAIR : oh he is leaving right away? Nick[Edited 2005-02-08 18:46:22]
28 Post contains images Schreiner : I guess that if the problems are fixed the dept time will be 19.00 local time. Airbus problems are solved by pressing Ctrl Alt Del, so should be fixed
29 Post contains images DRAIGONAIR : no prob! keep is up to date because if she leaves tomorrow im definatly going to AMS cheers Nick
30 RoseFlyer : Did she also divert to AMS because of fog at LHR? I had heard that the weather was bad at LHR and some other planes diverted, so it would have made se
31 Post contains images A388 : I just uploaded my pictures to a.net, I really hope they will get through as this is a first A340-600 appearance here in AMS. It was the first time I'
32 Post contains images AirKas1 : Any chance of a preview?
33 Post contains links and images A388 : Here are the links of my photos still in the qeue: VS A346 in AMS: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/VS346RCAMS080205A2.jpg VS 744 picking
34 Post contains images AirKas1 : Very nice pics!! Bit of a hazy day wasn't it?
35 Post contains images A388 : Thanks for the comments AirHas1. Yes, it was a very hazy day today in AMS, unfortunately. But for any aircraft diversions it is really worth it. Lucki
36 Post contains images AirKas1 : But for any aircraft diversions it is really worth it. I agree I would've done the same if I could
37 DRAIGONAIR : yeh but then its almost impossible to get shot of a nice plane standing still...or am i mistaken? btw did the 2 Virgin planes land on 18R? Nick
38 Schreiner : Jep, but still airplanes are not available at AMS at night I guess. Moving aircraft can be nice to shoot...
39 Post contains images DRAIGONAIR : ah ok...damn i would have gone spotting today but didnt have car what time did they arrive? and btw has she left yet? Nick
40 DRAIGONAIR : VirginA340-600 (G-VATL) departed 24 at 2255pm cheers Nick
41 Flyboy36y : Well, looks like a Boing had to finish the job that an airbus started.
42 AlitaliaMD11 : Flyboy36y Boeing is how its spelled.
43 Gkirk : Must have been serious if it couldnt get over the North Sea to Heathrow
44 SPL : People! Some answers to make it more clear. It was a hazy day at AMS yesterday and the diversion had nothing to do with fog at London Heathrow (and I'
45 Schreiner : Well, I mean the opservationdeck, that is closed at 18.00 no? Thanks for your tech talk. Sounds pretty serious... Cheers, Schreiner
46 Post contains links Lorenz : While in transit in AMS on Tuesday, me and a buddy got some shots if these planes on our way home from JNB.. They can be seen ; http://home.online.no/
47 Post contains images A388 : Thanks for the additional information SPL. The A346 is a great aicraft to see, I was very happy to see it for the first time after so many years. I ow
48 Post contains images Schreiner : We owe him alright, but he owes use for our photo's... We'll keep in touch about some night-shooting. Cheers, Schreiner
49 VC-10 : #4 didn't flame out & #1 was re-started.
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