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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4935 times:

Well, the big week is finally upon us for US Airways and Fort Lauderdale. Aside from the usual speculation about US Airways going under, how does everyone think that the Int'l gateway will fare?

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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

I think this is a good strategic move for US Airways. They have done extremely well in the Carribean & Europe and this Central/Latin American expansion will further feed and enhance that success. It will certainly benefit South Florida travelers with more options as well as the ever growing "Star Alliance" global network.

User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

What is US Airways doing at FLL?

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

USAirways has been doing quite well in FLL. EYW/MCO/TPA flights have started; EYW has performed so well that they have added 2 additional flights on Fridays - Mondays for a total of 5. The Central America flights are doing *OK*... not up to 75% - 100% loads but they're doing good, and the yields are much more impressive than expected.

-n


User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

Out of curiosity? How are the loads on FLL-EWR/LGa looking. Ewr especially cause that is a very strong market for CO. And are the rest of the NE destinations looking decent? Wasn't there supposed to be a second round of destinations eventually will that still happen in the future?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4706 times:

Wasn't there supposed to be a second round of destinations eventually will that still happen in the future?

Yes, there will be.

I've been hearing Santiago (Dom. Rep., not Chile), Port Au Prince, Port of Spain, and Managua (Nicuraguans represent Miami's largest Central American community, so I'm surprised they didn't already start it). More far fetched, but I've also heard Lima, but I don't see that happening soon.



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User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4695 times:

Will any European destinations come into the picture?

User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

I think last time I asked MAH4546 said it was a possibility but I'm not sure they have the equipment to cover the routes since the 767's and A330's are being used in PHL and CLT maybe MAH4546 can clear it up. I also wouldn't mind seeing a FLL-SXM flight.

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4647 times:

I'm not sure they have the equipment to cover the routes since the 767's and A330's are being used in PHL and CLT

They have the equipment during the winter months, when five PHL-Europe routes don't operate. I think FLL-LGW during the winter would work out great with a daily 762. I don't expect it to happen, though.



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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

They have the equipment during the winter months, when five PHL-Europe routes don't operate. I think FLL-LGW during the winter would work out great with a daily 762. I don't expect it to happen, though

Thanks for clearing that up I didn't realize that they didn't fly PHL-Europe during the winter.

Hawk44



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User currently offlineLatinAviation From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

More far fetched, but I've also heard Lima, but I don't see that happening soon.

Maybe for FLL, but it has been on US' radar screen in the past. When I was doing consulting work in LIM in 1998 who else did I run into in Miraflores other than US Airways int'l planning group scouting the potential for a CLT-LIM route. It never materialized, of course, but you never know...


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

How many gates does US now have at FLL?


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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

e1,3,5,7,9,10, AND MAYBE ONE MORE THANKS TO BAHAMASAIR?


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User currently offlineJpz1991 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

I flew into FLL last night from CMH and saw not one... but two 747's. It's not everyday you see one in FLL. There was an Air Atlanta 742 and another one that was off to the South end of the airport, I think it was a 743 and said Iceland on it At least from what i could see.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

The map of FLL in the current Attaché magazine lists US Airways as using E1, E2, E3, E4, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9, E10, F1, F2. A few of those gates I believe are shared with other airlines. International arrivals use gates H2, H4, H6, H8, H9, H10.


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

A330323X-12 gates at FLL for US Airways? According to my numbers, that is two more than they need at the airport...


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Hey, I haven't been to FLL recently, so I'm just going by what the (usually correct) magazine says. I do think that some of the gates are shared, so they might not have all 12 available at one time. Also, I believe the F gates were formerly ATA's, so US might have just snapped them up because they were available, to be used for future expansion.


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

A330323X-Is it safe to assume that, if US actually uses Concourse F, that they are used primarily for flights to and from Philadelphia and Charlotte, as those cities are more likely to consist of O&D traffic rather than passengers connecting at FLL?


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

"I flew into FLL last night from CMH and saw not one... but two 747's. It's not everyday you see one in FLL. There was an Air Atlanta 742 and another one that was off to the South end of the airport, I think it was a 743 and said Iceland on it At least from what i could see."

The 743 sitting at the Jet Center was from a new start-up cargo company called Focus Air. Rumors are that the carrier is waiting for its operating certificate from the FAA:

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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

12 gates at FLL for US Airways? According to my numbers, that is two more than they need at the airport...

Since FL uses a couple of E gates, I'm sure those F gates are used during times when there is no other space. Has ATA stopped FLL completely?


User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4043 times:

12 gates at FLL for US Airways? According to my numbers, that is two more than they need at the airport...

Thus allowing for growth in the future...

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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4008 times:

A330323X-Is it safe to assume that, if US actually uses Concourse F, that they are used primarily for flights to and from Philadelphia and Charlotte, as those cities are more likely to consist of O&D traffic rather than passengers connecting at FLL?

If the flights were more spread out during the day, that would make sense, and is what US does in places like DCA. However, with the hub as severely banked as it is, I'm not sure that'll always be possible. I guess we'll find out for sure when the ramp up is complete in a few weeks.



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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3994 times:

F1 AND F2 ARE used by TED and so is F4 I believe. Airtran has atleast 2 gates in E concurse E2,4,6,8 two of those belong to Airtran.


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User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

United actually uses F4 and F6, with F6 bearing the United logo.

ATA uses F2 when they are around. The rest are all AAmericAAn gAAtes.

-n


User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

One thing I've wondered about: doesn't USAirways need more domestic feed into FLL to make those international flights work? Most domestic travelers would have to connect twice to make a connection work, and that won't cut it when competing against ATL or MIA. I can't imagine FLL has enough O&D traffic, and CLT and PHL already have a lot of service to the same international cities.

25 MAH4546 : One thing I've wondered about: doesn't USAirways need more domestic feed into FLL to make those international flights work? No. I can't imagine FLL ha
26 Usairways85 : I can see PHL-SJO being reduced to Sat only, but it's a bit surprising to see PHL-SDQ reduced as well. Is the reason because US wants to try to route
27 PVD757 : I've been told that PVD-FLL will be the next mainline domestic addition to the FLL operation. The problem is the gate situation in FLL...
28 SegmentKing : Which BCAD said they will work on a temporary solution, which means redoing part of the pad and bringing over a few shuttle busses for the USX jets. R
29 John : PVD757, a daily PVD-FLL has been a long time coming and I believe the main reason US will accelerate their plans and switch this to a DAILY service is
30 7E72004 : I remember seeing somewhere that they are going to be building a concourse A...i have not been to FLL for a couple of years but from what i remember,
31 DL Widget Head : They've made room for Concourse A. It can't be built soon enough. Of course, they really need a new IAB as soon as possible. That might be the airport
32 KFLLSpotter : As for that Focus 744- It left today around 4:30... I saw her banking to the north, then back to the east... Possibly to Miami? All this while narrowl
33 FLAIRPORT : KFLL, I saw that plane take off over my school...however, I got no info on it. When I saw it I said..."hmm, that jetBlue seems a little low"...then "i
34 DB777 : It flew out as EUK 845 to Birmingham, England (EGBB). ETA is 0501 GMT, or a couple of minutes from now. Don
35 Hiflyer : uhhh...Focus is still parked..has not moved. You saw the 742 pax bird that has been on the field for about 3 days...working with a cruise line.
36 KFLLSpotter : >>uhhh...Focus is still parked..has not moved. You saw the 742 pax bird that has been on the field for about 3 days...working with a cruise line. Ahh,
37 Sinlock : I have not heard any news about when Term A will be built, but there is plenty of room. Keep in mind the "A" will be basically 1/2 of the (B & C) type
38 FLAIRPORT : my bad...I thought it was focus air too. Well, they both have blue tails. Nonetheless, cool to see a 742 take off from FLL.
39 Jetpixx : I was down at FLL today and it was a glorious day. Although traffic was taking off to the west, I had some nice shots off of the roof of the parking g
40 Njdevilsin03 : The inbound CRj's are... DCA-FLL # 2427 arriving FLL @ 9:08AM and then 3 EYW flights untill the 13th then a few changes are made and MCo is thrown in
41 Njdevilsin03 : Could the second waive include more NE cities like: SYR, BUF, ALB, ROC, PVD, MHT, BTV? Then maybe BGI, MEX, PUJ, STI, AUA, PVR, MZT, GIG (767 aircraft
42 Tom_eddf : Yesterday it looked like they were doing *very* well in FLL... I was booked on the 11.30am flight to PHL, and queues in front of the checkin counters
43 MAH4546 : Then maybe BGI, MEX, PUJ, STI, AUA, PVR, MZT, GIG (767 aircraft), POP, Acapulco and maybe a few others? BGI, MEX, PUJ, STI, AUA, POP: Maybe. PVR, MZT,
44 JoFMO : I don't think any of this destinations is very likely. That are leasure destinations, and so far US kept it's carribbean leasure hub in CLT. From FLL
45 Fleet Service : Arent the 'NIMBY' types already kicking up their heels about proposed airport expansion? I thought I had read something to that effect not too long ag
46 MAH4546 : That are leasure destinations, and so far US kept it's carribbean leasure hub in CLT. From FLL they serve less leasure orintated VFR destinations. Fr
47 LambertMan : Just curious, but what does AA think of what US is doing over in FLL? I would think they are sort of impeeding on AA's turf....
48 Kkfla737 : Just curious, but what does AA think of what US is doing over in FLL? I would think they are sort of impeeding on AA's turf.... AA has responded alre
49 DL Widget Head : US has been serving FLL (and MIA/PBI) a lot longer than Spirit and has always had more flights at FLL than Spirit. I don't believe Spirit has as many
50 MAH4546 : here was room for a second carrier on many of the routes which US has started from FLL. Second? USAirways is the third carrier on MFW-GUA, MFW-PTY, MF
51 ERJ170 : Oh oh.. I'm feeling stupid.. what is MFW?
52 MAH4546 : Oh oh.. I'm feeling stupid.. what is MFW? The universial code for airports in the Miami metro, includes MIA, PBI, FLL, and MBP.
53 ERJ170 : Hey Mark, I asked this question in another post but didn't get a reply..perhaps you can answer this.. EWN (new Bern, NC) recently visited AE for new s
54 Airplaneslover : I was in FLL today, and I'll tell you, US is doing very very well. But, I could see one major problem and that is ticket counter space. They have mabe
55 Njdevilsin03 : Who got the Southeast air ticket counters? And I'm prob guessing that Usair will/has acquired the Amtran counter space.
56 DB777 : I've never heard of MFW being used before. It is not an ICAO code, not a FAA code and the IATA code for MFW is Magaruque, Mozambique. What kind of "un
57 Post contains links MAH4546 : I've never heard of MFW being used before. It is not an ICAO code, not a FAA code and the IATA code for MFW is Magaruque, Mozambique. What kind of "un
58 DB777 : Okay, thanks, I've never seen it before.
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