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Any NW Avros In New Color Scheme?  
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

After looking through he photo database, I was unable to find any pictures of an NW Avro in the new color scheme. I think It would be very interesting to see. Does anyone know if they have an Avro in the new scheme?

By the way, I'll be taking my first Avro flight in March! I've read that they have one of the most comfortable coach products in the US.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7600 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Nope, none have been repainted, nor have any Saabs.

No word on when we may or may not see one of these repainted.


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Cool, Thanks for the Info


"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineAviatortj From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

The leases begin to expire next year in 2006. It is still my guess that since NW has never painted an Avro (Bowling Shoe or Silver Bullet) that they wont go out of their way to paint any in the next twelve months. Although, I would be happy to be proven otherwise.

-TJ


User currently offline4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

I haven't heard of any Avros being painted, but didn't a Saab go to the paint shop not all that long ago? I thought I saw another discussion about that.


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

"No word on when we may or may not see one of these repainted."

I talked this past weekend face to face with a head guy at Mesaba. He said INDEED they are going to paint the Avros THIS YEAR. I believe he said it'd be toward the summer. I also work with an associate who also works at Mesaba, and was also able to confirm this information.

Unless they're feeding me BS which I doubt they would, get ready for some cool lookin' Avros!


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7600 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Continental, I doubt they are feeding you BS, but the story has changed so many times on when the Arvo's & Saabs were to be repainted, you can't believe anything. First it was to be Oct' 04, then by year-end 2004, then Januarary.....so who knows.

Yes, there was a Saab that was to be repainted a few weeks ago, because of an AD related to the bonded primer and how the aircraft was repainted by a previous owner. Ship 106 went in for inspection and was to be repainted, when they stripped the paint they found significant corrosion, and being a 15 year-old A model, it was not economical to repair, and the aircraft was retired from service


User currently offlineNorjet From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3753 times:

Well, there *is* a line drawing of one on the fleet/seatmap page at NWA's website:

www.nwa.com/travel/trave/seatm/

Whereas the Saab drawing is still in the red & grey...

--Scott



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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3727 times:

That guy at Mesaba also told me something of a Saab 340 that had something wrong with it. But he told me that they were able to send it to the manufacturer or something and they're getting a new one.

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3942 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3675 times:

COntinental... when did you have an opportunity to talk with Spanjers and in what forum? Just curious. THe saabs when they're actually painted, will be in the silver NWA paint scheme.


AZJ


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

"when did you have an opportunity to talk with Spanjers and in what forum? Just curious."

Sarcasm detector?? I never said I talked to Spanjers.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7600 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

They aren't replacing 106, now there are 63 Saab's in the XJ fleet.

User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3516 times:
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Unfortunately, they don't make SF340's anymore so they are unable to trade in for a new one  Sad


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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3942 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Continental - you said you talked to a "head guy"... a "head guy" is John Spanjers. So - NO - actually, I wasn't being sarcastic. Who'd you talk to?


AZJ


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

Well by head guy I didn't mean president. He said he works with the top guys at Mesaba, and the girl I work with who also works at Mesaba knew him the second he walked in. No I do not know his name, but I can ask. This is what I heard, so if you think I'm lying, well than you can keep thinking that.

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3942 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

I don't think you're lying Mr. Defensive! I'm just curious who you talked to in such a casual fashion. You obviously weren't at a BOD meeting, Analyst conference, SLT meeting or a dinner party at the guys house.



AZJ


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5519 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

Well I felt as if extreme sarcasm were being used! This is what I heard directly from the guy who came into my work. We talked for about half an hour. This was my 3999 post, I need to find something good to waste 4k on!

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

Maybe XJ is afraid to even try to repaint any more planes. Maybe they'll find more unrepairable problems.

 Big grin

Mark


User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Anybody willing to go with or against my theory? NW and XJ have never fully painted an Avro, the leases begin to end soon. Replacing before repainting.

Second, any word on the number two Saab? N27XJ???

-tj


User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Here is an artist's depiction of an avro in the new color scheme.



Hope to get to see one someday in real life.



"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

the concept looks good except for the logo on the fuselage. it should have the smaller NWA above the windowline, with the red "Airlink" undreneath...like the CRJ.

I'm working on a couple of repaints for Microsoft Flight Sim of the Saab and Avro in the new colors. I'll post images....so at least we'll have a virtual plane painted.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

But I would think that the Avros and the Saabs will both get painted soon. NW could be working on renegotiating the Avro leases, or deciding what to do with them. They could get replaced, who knows? But given current economics, how feasible would it be as of right now? Maybe in a few years.



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