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New Mexicana A318 Delivered Today  
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

Hi all

Mexicana's next A318 XA-UBV was delivered today 11th Finkenwerder - Keflavik as 'MXA1101' on the first leg of its ferry flight.

Maybe of interest to someone.

Cheers,

Rob K  Wink/being sarcastic

26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Thanks for the info Rob. Now that we know MX will be sold on its own and not merged with AM it'd be safe to say that MX will be a all-Airbus airline. Hopefully, the long-haul aircraft(s) that MX needs will be ordered soon.

User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2682 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

the next leg is probably going to be KEF-YUL, just like the last couple of A318's Mexicana got!

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3958 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

the next leg is probably going to be KEF-YUL, just like the last couple of A318's Mexicana got!

Thenoflyzone


Yes, that leg is correct according to the tracker I use.

Cheers,

Rob K  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Are MX's A318s in service yet? If so, where to? If not, when is their first revenue flight with MX?

Thanks,
san747



Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineEuropean From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Hey,

RobK, I read all of your different Deliveries topics, Hehe

I love the A318, Probably my most favorite, So I'm happy to hear that another has been delivered.

European
Jimmi


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Yes, last Monday we had one @ YYZ

User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

San747,

22 A318 are now in service in the world :

7 with Frontier.
9 with Air France.
6 with Mexicana.

Mexicana received its 2 first a/c in November last year.


User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 821 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

I flew the MX A318 a couple of weeks ago!.. very nice..you normally wont notice the difference between the a318 and a319 unless you really pay attention to the back to notice less row of seats.

My question is, since the A318 are considered unprofitable because of the high CASM, why is MX getting them? apart from commonality, what it is the advantage?! (i dont want to hear that they were free or got 50% off)


User currently offlineAM773 From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3092 times:

"apart from commonality, what it is the advantage?! "

They can use the A318 in low-density medium-long haul routes, like MEX-UIO-GYE, as they can send it in a domestic flight, or a mexican 3rd city-U.S.A. flight. In fact, the A318, having the A319 and A320, and soon A321, has a lot of advantages.

Good for MX!!!, in fact, they have right now the biggest A318/19/20/21 fleet in LatAm.

Regards,

AM773


User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Yep arrived today, hope to see it in service soon.

Let´s see if APM got some pics  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

"Good for MX!!!, in fact, they have right now the biggest A318/19/20/21 fleet in LatAm."

How many A321 they have??????



User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

So far, it is not yet official that MX will go for A321's. Well maybe it is official, but it has not been officially announced yet. As for the A318's, they are used for flights to Ecuador, for the additional flights to YUL that MX is adding (so I heard) and maybe they are used for flights that have less pax than the A319's.

I think commonality and range are the main reasons why MX decided to get A318's.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

EddieDude is right so as AM773, apart from the commonality, the aircraft serves very well low density medium-long haul routes, like UIO, GYE, ORD, YUL, YYZ, instead of taking an A320/319 with only 50 pax and losing some money, the A318 with the same 50 passengers makes money, and there are a lot of savings with the commonality of the fleet.

And for the A321 right now MX does not operate any, but there are supposed to arrive two in the next months.


Regards



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Hi Logan, I would only like to say that YYZ and ORD don't seem to me like low density routes. Especially ORD which is served very well by MX sometimes with 752's.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAM773 From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

TACAA320:

I think that with the "...and soon A321" comment, its obvious that they don't have YET any A321.

My apologies if I wasn't totally clear.

AM773


User currently offlineMEXICANA340500 From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 10 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Two second hand Airbus A321 are due for 1Q/05. They will be tested by the company. Now that some 757 are about to retire the fleet we will need something extra to fill the gap left by those B757.

MEXICANA340500




Sergio Mota - Aviation Photography of Mexico
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

I thought that MX was not retiring any of its 752's yet (as opposed to AM that will see some of its birds leave its fleet).


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineMEXICANA340500 From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 10 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Something I wasn't expecting also. N758MX will soon be retired followed by N755MX. At least the ones leaving are the oldest seven five's in our fleet.

MEXICANA340500




Sergio Mota - Aviation Photography of Mexico
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

I don't think they are adequate airplanes for flights such as MEX-ORD and MEX-LAX because of the altitude of MEX. I guess they will be used for MEX-CUN, MEX-MIA and stuff like that.

Of course I could be wrong.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

MX´s B757´s are the best. And it was said that MX got a good deal to keep them all.

Are the N758MX and the N755MX the "No que no" and "Vamos por más"? Because, the were the first two B757´s with MX´s colors.



Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineSFOMEX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Among the many things I have learned at A.net is the fact that the A321 is not a good option for a high altitude & hot airport such as MEX.

I guess they will be used for MEX-CUN, MEX-MIA and stuff like that.

That would make sense, yet I wonder if would be money wise to get some birds you can't use in some routes even if you need their capacity/range.

Anyway, if they are coming to be tested I hope I would be able to fly them before they leave. It'd surely be nice to fly a MX A321!





User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Hi everybody, EddieDude, about the A318 in ORD or YYZ, some flights are getting cancelled due to low demand on this days, even MX184 MTY-ORD and MX185 ORD-MTY is getting cancel almost everyday, today got cancelled with 8 passengers, so with some of those you put them on a A318 with the other 80 of the flight where they are protecting all of them, it makes money, also serves for testing the aircraft and arrange the permissions for the aircraft, right now XA-UBQ/UBR/UBS can fly to US and Canada, UBT, UBU only Mexico, and UBV is not flying right now.

About the A321, it will be used on high density routes, but the idea here, is not pulling it out from MEX full, (you can´t), so, you send it with not too much passengers to CUN or MTY or other cities, and return it full from those cities, where it can depart with almost no problem.

The 757 lease contracts where getting a little bit high, that´s why they are retiring the plane, and analyzing the A321; commonality here Big grin

Regards



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineBoeingfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

Good on MX. What a great carrier with prudent strategy! Excellent staff, and management alike. Mexico can be proud of their world class airline! Mexicana, the choice to Mexico. Congratulations.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 43
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Too bad that ORD is performing weakly at the moment. I recall that all the ORD-MEX-ORD flights I took when I was studying in Chicago were always full no matter what time of the year (I flew MX, AM and AA and this was true in all three cases). Hopefully it is just temporary.

About the A321, I hope to fly one of them as soon as they arrive! It would be awesome if MX had a special introductory fare to MTY so that I can go visit some friends while experiencing the long narrowbody.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
25 Pecevanne : Hi friends....they Just start on looking on the A-321 and nothing confirmed yet. They think that the aircraft Will fit perfect markets as MEX-CUN, MEX
26 N405MX : Not sure about the CFM engines for the MX A321, mostly the decision will go for the IAE, it works really great with the A320, and for the weight that
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