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How Old Is Too Old?  
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

I remember seeing a very loud Aero California Dc9 and I wondered to myself how can these planes still be flying. I saw the pic below and it said that that particular dc9 was delivered 1966. I know the replacing of engines and avionics that go on but aren't some of these airlines taking risks by flying these type of airplanes just to make big profits?



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

If you take care of it and treat it with respect, it'll last forever.  Big grin

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12092 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3399 times:
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NWA's oldest DC-9s must be in the age range of 1966-1970s. If an airline maintains good and strong maintaince on them, then they are still perfectly safe to remain flying.

User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

"big profits"...that's a knee jerker. If only that were true.

User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3385 times:
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The answer may well depend on how old you are. The concept of age is relative to ones own. The fact that the planes you are looking at are still flying speaks volumes. Of course it's up to the carrier to keep up with the manufacturers recommendations on maintenance and the governing body of the country of ownership to do its enforcement duties and to ensure the ships integrity. That can cost extra but commitment can definitely accomplish that. I would not hesitate to board any acft from a carrier/country I trusted.

Economics will decide the date your looking for, both of fuel and in maintenance.



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

As stated above, as long as the airline takes the step to follow all "suggested" mx procedures and treat the a/c with respect then there should be no issues with flying such an a/c for more than 30 years. Another issue is that money + plane = Ch. 11. These airlines own the aircraft so why not invest a larger sum that will soon make itself up time and time again? It's worked for NW and many other airlines so before you judge an a/c by it's age take a look at the facts.

Thanks again.

Ua777222



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

I love the fact you can still fly these older aircraft on pax revenue services. We should all be happy they are still around, cos when they're gone they won't be back. Provided they are mechanically sound/and maintained they are perfectly fine to fly on.

User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

If you think that's old, you should come up to FAI. We still have several DC-6's and C46's flying daily. Granted, they're used for cargo, but they're still going strong.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Until it gets Economically Difficult to Maintain.
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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Theoretically you could apply the this practice to your car. While not economic you could replace your engine, gear box interior etc periodically and the car will last forever or untill the supply of parts dries up. Also since an aircraft is a money making device you have to take in this maintenace into account. If it costs more to maintain the aircraft then it produces in revenue, theres no point in keeping it and you'll soon go out of business, espcially if the entire fleet is like this.

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