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User currently offlineDelta767-400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 226 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1946 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I was looking through my Pan Am timetables and came across the Dec. 1985 one. On the map in the middle it has a few flights from DTW that are flown by Republic. In the ledged it says that the flights are "Pan Am Express operated by Republic Airlines." So my question is what was the relationship between Republic and Pan Am in the Mid 80's? Also there are 3 flights from ATL on Air Atlanta with the same designation. What sort of relationship did Pan Am have with Republic and Air Atlanta?

Thanks
Matt


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4680 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Don't know much about the PA/Air Atlanta hookup, some codeshares IAD/JFK-Europe may have been the extent of it.

PA operated DTW-LHR-Europe and had a codeshare agreement with RC to help tap some Midwest traffic. I think the agreement lasted until the NW merger, but never amounted to that much. I remember having several timetable from the era and never saw much advertising for it.




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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1841 times:

When PA ramped up European flights in early 1986, they expanded flights to/from Detroit operated by Republic greatly. At the same time PA was flying from several domestic destinations to both JFK and MIA which were the hubs- also service from Hobby, Orlando and Kansas City to Dulles to feed European flights. Most of these domestic routes lasted a few months.

The Air Atlanta codeshare lasted several years. In the June 28, 1982 Timetable PA operated two daily nonstops from Atlanta to Miami and one daily nonstop to JFK. My next timetable from 1984 has Air Atlanta service to both JFK and MIA. So do the timetables through 1985 and 1986, and even the first two for 1987. The summer 1987 timetable shows PA nonstop service resumed to the 1982 levels- twice a day to Miami and once a day to JFK.

User currently offlineDelta767-400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 226 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1792 times:		 Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

So how well did the Republic codeshare service work out? I assume it ended when NW took over Republic?

User currently offlineSprxUSA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Pacific Express out of SFO and LAX had the same type of set-up, if anyone cares.


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User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 671 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Air Atlanta was founded by a black attorney here in ATL, Michael Hollis. He managed to get funding by getting insurance companies to buy into the airline and then use it as a write off for tax purposes. They flew all business class 727's and had dedicated gates at JFK, MIA and ATL. Towards the end, CSX owned a majority of the airline and was the reason they started service to Greenbiar at Lewisburg WVA.

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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Pacific Express out of SFO and LAX had the same type of set-up, if anyone cares.

Did PA own part of Pacific express?

User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2160 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 1531 times:

I remember at one time owning a joint Pan Am/Pacific Express timetable.


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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4680 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 1529 times:

Pan Am never owned a share in Pacific Express.


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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 1521 times:

thanks- i wasn't sure
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