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How Many More Times? USAirways(Uair) Gets 30 More Days  
User currently offlineSolehibob From United States, joined Feb 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

to file a reorg plan.

Land of the endless BK.

44 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineJj From Argentina, joined Jun 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4022 times:

Not to make anoyone angry.... but Uair was dead before it started. They were operationg with vastly reduced fares on routes with little demand. I guess they were doomed from the beggining. The airline should have begun only offering flights between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Montevideo and Punta del Este and stuck to that routing at least for the first months. That´s where the money is. Not in Cordoba or Mendoza. Those two routes should have been full fare routes, and perhaps Uair should have chosen a smaller aircraft... maybe an ERJ or CRJ for those operations. Anyway I hope they can restructure and keep on flying. But I´m not very optimistic.

Jj


Goes around... comes around...
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States, joined Jun 1999, 2213 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the poster meant USAirways???


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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

I wish poeople would use the names of airlines and not just assume that everyone knows what your talking about!

If your talking about UA then its a complete joke, this carrier should be closed down and stop burning money.

User currently offlineDBCooper From United States, joined Jun 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

UAir is a South American airline based in MVD with a fleet of F-100s.


- DBC

User currently offlineN766UA From United States, joined Jul 1999, 6814 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

U Air? Someone please clarify.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States, joined Nov 2001, 9886 posts, RR: 73
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

I don't want to see people out of work.

Having said that, each time I hear of USAirways' fat getting pulled from the fire, I get the same feeling of exasperation as when I hear a girl whose man has cheated on her repeatedly saying she'll give him just one more chance - even though this is his third or fourth "one more chance."

Move on already! End it.


"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States, joined Nov 2001, 2879 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3779 times:
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The poster is talking about US Airways...USAir...US...U...UAIR. Unfortunately not everyone knows its latest stock ticker symbol - UAIR.

US Airways and GE reached an agreement today to allow for 30 more days to file their POR.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...story/02-14-2005/0003020263&EDATE=

User currently offlineStlgph From United States, joined Oct 2004, 8037 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

I wish people would use contractions when in place properly so we can understand the context of their own speech, but that's beside the point.

I would think this would be about Uair and not about US Airways...as they have until June for their next big deadline, or so I thought. At any rate, USAirways, for the sake of it, is having a doozy of a sale once again on select routes. STL-LGA has been popping up at $89 roundtrip (about $125 incl. all taxes). I took advantage of that and booked a few trips...



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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States, joined Jan 2004, 2279 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3754 times:

US Airways is trading on one of the over the counter stock markets under the symbol UAIRQ. Which is probably where the original poster got UAir from.....




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User currently offlineACAfan From United States, joined Apr 2004, 709 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3745 times:

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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User currently offlineSolehibob From United States, joined Feb 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Apologies all around. I meant USAirways.

User currently offlineScottB From United States, joined Jul 2000, 4280 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Not to be too nitpicky, but they actually got 28 days, not 30. The deadline with GE was extended from Feb. 15 to March 15, and we all know February hath 28 alone.

User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 3295 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

We are talking aobut U-Air, and Uruguayan Airline backed by TAM Brasil wich operates F-100s. If you want to talk about US Airways, go to another topic.

Anyway, U-Air made a bad desition to start those tihn routes.

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Actually dude it looks like they are talking about USAirways.

User currently offlineDazed767 From United States, joined May 1999, 5065 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Sorry sounds like a USAirways post. I don't think 'UAir' would fit the topic "how many more times?"  Big grin

Good luck again to the thousands of US employees.

User currently offlineN670UW From United States, joined Jul 2003, 1556 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

It's US Airways:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050214/us_airways_ge_1.html

UAIR = Nasdaq stock symbol for US Airways  Smile



N670UW

User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 3295 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3439 times:

Sorry, but the post was VERY unlcear, you can tell the moderators to change the title.  Smile Anyway, please stop bashing US, we all know they will probably not make it, but stop it.

User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Hardly surprising given that UAL (United Air Lines) has been in court getting extentions for 2 plus years now.....

It will be the same for US AIRWAYS for the next couple of years or so, just wait and see. After that, then they will go belly-up.


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User currently offlineTu154 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 306 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

This subject has been beaten to death!!!! Arent you all bored to tears speculating when, if, why, how, Usairways and United are going to fold? I thought we are all here because we have a love of avaition, not to wish the death of airlines we don't care for and the loss of jobs to thousands of hard working people.


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

Sorry, but the post was VERY unlcear, you can tell the moderators to change the title. Smile Anyway, please stop bashing US, we all know they will probably not make it, but stop it.

Am I the only one that sees the contradiction?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States, joined Jan 2005, 4954 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3127 times:
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Oops, I had thought this was a different airline and started another thread (I have asked my other thread to be deleted).

The web page I found:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050214/us_airways_ge_1.html

Basically, GE is letting them string along. (Them=US). IF US can be profitable within 6 months, good for them. Otherwise... I wouldn't hold my breath.

Has anyone else noted that the airline finance market is really poor right now? What I'm talking about is US being unable to secure exit from BK financing and Virgin America's inability to raise the USA portion of the required seed capital. Virgin stated that they will not be able to start flying until 9 to 12 months after they secure financing and apply to fly. (Hence, why they do not expect to carry pax in 2005.) We might be entering the end game...

Lightsaber

Lightsaber


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User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

Well, as I know, Uair is still flying.Fortunately now it started to serve profit destinations, like San Pablo, Buenos Aires, and will start soon to Asuncion and Santiago. The english company Ashmore will also invest in them (the CEO of Uair saying is because of the weak financial situation at Uair) Now, Travel Agencies HATE them, it seems their booking syistem is a mess, unexperienced personal, no e tickets, etc... They only book a passenger on them if it asks for it, they prefer a lot the more traditonal Pluna/Aerolineas/Varig trio.

Regards

UairFokker

User currently offline762er From United States, joined Feb 2001, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

US Airways has to be out of bankruptcy before the beginning of July. It's in our agreement with GE. Things are going a lot better and our new strategy is already show very positive results (OTAs and utilization). Add to that labor cost inline with any of the LCCs and, mark my words, by mid-summer, we will be a force to be reckoned with. All the naysayers don't bother me, however, they are entertaining. If I had a nickle for every time someone said US would be dead in a month, I'd be a rich man. Just a lot of talk.

User currently offlineTockeyhockey From United States, joined Feb 2005, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

holy crap -- this might be the most confused thread i have ever read. maybe we should delete and start over?

User currently onlineAA61Hvy From United States, joined Nov 1999, 13211 posts, RR: 68
Reply 25, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

So long as its in operation next week. I bought a ticket for my GF on US. It was 185 bucks, compared to the 300 on AA/CO/DL


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26 Tom in NO: Time for all the carriers that keep getting extensions to either sink or swim (UA, US, or whoever). The market needs to shake itself out without the g
27 Flighttime: Let this confusion be a good lesson for myopic Americans who automatically presume that everyone knows and associate UAir with their US Airways, that
28 Spike: Its got to be sink. Canada and the UK will take over and make US aviation profitable once again> SRB (VS) is buying PAA's remaining 727 out, AC is buy
29 CORULEZ05: for all you US Airways haters, they will make it.......if they wouldn't they would already be gone so...stop the hating because US Airways is here to
30 Spike: Not with losses like that they're not. Give over, and merge with SouthWest.
31 Mikey711MN: There's an old saying that if you owe the bank $100, it's your problem, but if you owe the bank $100 million, it's their problem. Having said that, I
32 Post contains images PA110: Isn't Branson buying them and converting them to Virgin America?
33 Post contains images Lockheed1011: USAirways is not going down! Lets submit new good Topics. Leave USAirways alone already. They are not going down, go on with your life and lets celebr
34 CORULEZ05: I couldn't agree more with you lockheed......a true aviation enthusiast doesn't get a kick out of a legacy carrier like USAirways having difficult tim
35 Post contains images Spike: well.... if there was anything to be positive about the certain demise of USAir.... sure. If Virgin buy them though......
36 Bennett123: I keep hearing about the recovery of US Airways, what does the plan consist of, apart from pay and benefit cuts for the staff.
37 Tockeyhockey: who says every conversation and topic has to be positive? can't a true enthusiast pick out planes, routes, and airlines that he or she thinks are ill-
38 CORULEZ05: I'm not playing the positive police....just standing up for a great airline like USAirways that deserves a chance to get back on their feet...all this
39 Tockeyhockey: dude, i support usairways too, but to say that people are not allowed to voice their opinions about its fate is crazy! i booked a $1,500 flight on usa
40 CORULEZ05: "...but to say that people are not allowed to voice their opinions about its fate is crazy!" Did I ever say that?......I don't think so...and trust me
41 Tockeyhockey: i'm flying out of IAD through SJU. the puddle jumper flight is always fun (you're usually deaf by the time you land) but a week at the sunset beach ba
42 Tockeyhockey: oh, and this is in response to earlier posts, i don't think that usair is technically a legacy carrier. those are airlines that emerged from the origi
43 Aerokiwi: It's all very well being "positive", but when the situation is causing an enormous amount of wastage in resources and lost profits for more stable car
44 Tango-Bravo: I keep hearing about the recovery of US Airways, what does the plan consist of, apart from pay and benefit cuts for the staff. If there is anything mo
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