Bluepoole From South Africa, joined Jan 2005, 51 posts, RR: 3 Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1774 times:
When Air France took delivery of their first Airbus A318, they claimed that they were the only airline to operate all variants of the A320 family (A318, A319, A320, A321)
Now I was wondering - is there any airline that operates all the variants of the 737NG? (736, 73G, 738 & 739)
Also, why doesn't the 737-900 come equipped with winglets? Is it offered as an option?
Jean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2106 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1746 times:
No; there are no airlines using all variants of the NG's. This isn't surprising, given that so few airlines have ordered the -600 and -900, which have fairly limited roles.
Even airlines using three out of the four are pretty rare. As of this year, Westjet will be using the -600, -700, and -800, with no plans for the -900. I'm sure there are a couple of other airlines like this, but not too many.
They were inherited from the merger with Aéromaritime. They were operated just a few weeks/months by AF/AIR CHARTER before being sold to CORSAIR (F-GFUG/UH)
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
Continental was thinking of ordering 600's in addition to the 700's, 800's and 900's they bought. They would have been the only airline operating all 4 NG 737 variants if they went for the 600 but they chose the 500 instead because it has a slightly lighter gross weight. Yes that's true there is no airline that has all 4 NG variants.
FLYSSC, you are correct about Air France but there are FIVE variants of older 737's, not 4. Don't forget that defunct Sabena has also operated the 4 variants you mention. Yes, you can say there are 4 if you consider 100/200 as one variant. Lufthansa has no NG 737's but it is the only airline in the world having operated all five first and second generation 737's: 100 thru 500 Series.
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1614 times:
>Also, why doesn't the 737-900 come equipped with winglets? Is it offered as an option?<
It is offered as an option and Boeing has specs for them, but still needs a customer to get certified. So far, no one has stepped up. The 739X should come with them as standard.
>Lufthansa has no NG 737's but it is the only airline in the world having operated all five first and second generation 737's: 100 thru 500 Series.<
When did they have the 734?
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1590 times:
>AS missed out on the 500/600 and/or 300/700.<
AS has the 73G, but did indeed miss the 500/600. Still, the 200 is the same size as the 500/600, and AS even still has those, so that could be factored
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MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
Additional to those mentioned earlier, Air China operates the 600,700 and 800, Jet Airways the 7,8,900 and Lauda Air the 6,7 and 800.
Continental used 7 variants (only skipping the 400 and 600) and I am sure tops the overall "737 all variant airlines" hall of fame, as airlines like Lufthansa, Air France, British Airways, America West, US Airways and Aer Lingus who had all or most of the classic subtypes are now ignoring the 737ng series so can't have passed the 5-mark.
But can you believe tiny Lauda Air follows soon in this list of multi-type operators, because they also used 200s, 300s and 400s at one time or the other, totalling 6 versions.
source: http://www.airlinerlist.com
[Edited 2005-02-15 18:03:55]
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
>Lufthansa had seven 737-400's. They were delivered in 1992 and sold in 1997.<
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Bluepoole From South Africa, joined Jan 2005, 51 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1355 times:
Thanks for all the replies so far...I suspected that no airline operates all four variants.
I have another question: (didn't want to start a new thread, seeing that we are already talking about 737NG's)
Why is it that the smaller two variants (736 & 73G) have longer range than the 738 & 739? This is also the case with Airbus - the A318 & A319 have longer range than the A320 & A321, yet they are smaller and have less capacity.
Normally a bigger aircraft has a longer range - I know you get exceptions i.e. the 777-200ER has a longer range than a 747-400, but it is interesting to see this phenomenon on the smaller airliners! Is there a specific reason for this? If there is, forgive my ignorance!
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1346 times:
>Why is it that the smaller two variants (736 & 73G) have longer range than the 738 & 739? This is also the case with Airbus - the A318 & A319 have longer range than the A320 & A321, yet they are smaller and have less capacity.<
The weight gain and thrust increase is not made up for in fuel capacity gains. The 73G, however, is longer ranged than the 736 because the 736 is almost as heavy but holds significantly less fuel. Also, the 736 and 738 have similar range
>Normally a bigger aircraft has a longer range - I know you get exceptions i.e. the 777-200ER has a longer range than a 747-400, but it is interesting to see this phenomenon on the smaller airliners! Is there a specific reason for this?<
The reason that larger aircraft often have longer range is because they carry much more fuel. However, with derivative aircraft (772 v. 773, 762 v. 763)usually give the advantage to the smaller craft because of weight/fuel capacity ratio changes
>If there is, forgive my ignorance!<
Lack of knowledge is always forgiven (which is what you have), there is no excuse for ignorance.
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Je89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2327 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1310 times:
Bluepoole From South Africa, joined Jan 2005, 51 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1270 times:
N1120A - thanks for your explanation, it makes sense!
And you are quite right, "ignorance" is something different than "lack of knowledge"...thanks for correcting me. Every now and then a little slip-up like that happens since English is not my first language
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